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Hey, welcome back to another episode of let' Just Talk About it podcast.
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I'm your host, chuck, and if you're here for the first time, this platform was created to give genuine people just like you an opportunity to share a portion of your life's journey.
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So, with that being said, I have returning guest Timothy Wayne Carr on with me today, who's currently incarcerated at the Dill and Correctional Facility here in Virginia, and on this episode, we have a conversation about his exit strategy once he's released from prison.
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So, hey, you definitely don't want to miss this amazing dialogue today.
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As a matter of fact, do me a favor Go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and gather around to listen to my conversation with Timothy Carr on let's Just Talk About it podcast.
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Hey, let's jump right in.
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What's up Nothing much man, I'm hanging in there.
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Yes, sir man, how you doing.
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What's up, tim?
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Nothing much man, I'm hanging in there.
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Yes, sir, man, how you doing?
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I'm hanging in there.
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Just switched to another from a level three to a level two man, it's dormitory man, it's okay, it's all right, right now.
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Got you, Got you man.
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So people don't.
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The only problem is Huh.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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The only problem is they don't let you know.
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Before you get here, you got to buy everything T-shirt, underwear, socks, right right Washcloth.
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Wow, Go ahead.
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People don't know about that journey, that bus ride man.
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They don't know.
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No, no, no, no.
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I'm going to write a book about that.
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Yeah, yeah, hey.
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Something going on.
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Yeah, man, Good to hear your voice.
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Man.
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What have you been up to since the last time we had an interview, man?
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Well, I finished up AutoCAD.
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Right.
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Computer Autograph in class.
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Okay.
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Got my certificate in that I did TEDx.
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It's called TED Talk.
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That's a real big thing going on in the prison.
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It's called Ted Talk.
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That's a real big thing going on in the prison.
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They look highly, they highly favor that it was the first one in Virginia.
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Right.
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Where I played the keyboard for a couple of guys rapping and whatnot.
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And then we did an original song with the band Green Machine Band Okay, with Brother Ross, who's a part of my service in United Church of Christ in the prison.
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So after that you know they had a hold on me because there was an administration move and now I'm at Dillwyn.
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Okay.
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D-I-L-L-W-Y-N facility in level two.
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You know, now I'm here, man, and just trying to get in the kitchen and trying to get in class and trying to do everything I can do to.
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You know, get my process rolling for this partner.
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Man, that's tough for process, man.
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People don't understand.
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You know the things you got to go through and the feeling of being away from your family and moments like that.
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So yeah, the biggest moment is having to call your family when you got a job and then, when you don't have a job, telling them you need some funds and they struggling out there right along with you.
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You know what I mean.
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Yeah, man, things are hard.
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Yeah mean, yeah, man, things are hard.
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Yeah, things are hard, man, it's like real hard.
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People, you know, got their own stuff, and that's one of the things I had to learn when I was away.
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I had to realize that, you know, people got their own responsibilities, man.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, no doubt.
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Yeah, they got their own.
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But, like you said, that's why I try not to order.
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That's right.
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That's why I try not to bother anybody.
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You know, try to get a job in here.
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Yeah, Do what I can do to provide it for myself.
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Yeah, yeah, man, I get it, I get it.
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So, so, talk about, man, your plans, man, when you, when you what we call, come home man, when you, when you um, what we?
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call come home, come, come on land.
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What's your plans?
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Yeah, what's my plan?
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Yeah, oh, my exit, what I call, that's what I call my exit strategy, exit strategy that's the name of this episode exit strategy.
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Let's talk about it yeah, yeah, that's what I call my exit strategy.
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Yeah, well, my exit strategy is to uh have my own corporation, investment development company.
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Okay.
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And nonprofit to help inner city youth, dealing with a whole bunch of different things and also giving them access to have job opportunities so that they don't feel like you know, saying they got to go out and do the wrong thing to make money yeah.
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You know, but give them that sort of insight on things that they could do to help better themselves.
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Right.
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And why in high school, junior high and high school coming up, you know.
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Show them a different direction.
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Yeah.
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Because it's kids out there raising kids pretty much Wow, and that's it, you know.
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Showed them a different direction.
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you know, because it's kids out there raising kids pretty much Wow, and that's it.
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You know, I'm going to flip houses, I'm going to do a whole bunch of things, man, I just can't even name them all.
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While I was at TED Talk, I met one of the guys.
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He's a big time, he's pretty much a millionaire.
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But I told him I time he's pretty much a millionaire, but I told him I said you're going to be my partner.
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Shook his hand and said you're going to be my partner when I come home.
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I said I got some things that you're going to benefit from.
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We're both going to benefit from.
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He said well, when are you getting out?
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I said as soon as I get this party.
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Other than that, I got a little bit of time.
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So long long story short.
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He was like well, I need to hear this man.
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I said I can't tell you now because I can't have you run off with my idea.
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Yeah, what kind of millionaire is he man?
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What does he do?
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Who, what does he do?
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What kind of millionaire?
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You say he's a millionaire, what does he do?
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Oh, yeah, he's a Chatham.
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He owns a power company.
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He's an owner, wow, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Black millionaire.
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Huh, he's a black millionaire.
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No, no, no, this is a white man.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, older dude, real cool.
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Met a lot of people A young lady named Rhea Cousins from Richmond who was a delegate in Richmond, virginia, and she's got aspirations to do some big things.
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I can't put out there exactly what she's going to do next from the delegate, but she came with and do some big things I can't put out there exactly what she's going to do next from the delegate.
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Okay, but you know, yeah, no, I shook hands with a lot of good people.
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A lot of good people Wow Didn't see me as an inmate, but saw me as a man, as a man, so they came in and talked to you all about some things.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely that Okay Shared their story, we shared some of our stories with them and people are ready for us to come home with great ideas and do some big things, which I have planned to do.
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I always say, man, it's a different energy when people come home from prison, man, After working for 23 cents, 30 cents, and to realize you can make money hourly and get paid or you know, start your own.
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That's right.
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You know what I mean.
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It's a different energy when you hit the ground running man.
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Yeah, and I spoke to a lot of guys in here.
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You know I don't really do too much talking.
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If you come to me, we're going to build and talk about how we can make ourselves millionaires just by overnight.
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Yeah.
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That's the goal.
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It's to go millionaires overnight.
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Communication.
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That's communication.
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Working together.
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Yeah.
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A lot of guys in here are not estranged of the hard work.
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Like you said, I work 15 hours a day, pretty much five, six days a week for 45 cents.
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You do the math.
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What do you think I'm going to do when I get out there?
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You?
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ain't top paid 45 cents.
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That's right.
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What do you think I'm going to do when I get out there?
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You?
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don't get it.
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It's a different energy man.
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Business minded folks think alike.
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You know what I'm saying.
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You know get that credit right.
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Keep that credit right and build from there.
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Yeah, you know it's a crazy thing, man.
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You know, if a person do like seven years or whatever, away their credit like it goes back to like you never used it.
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Right, right, right, yeah, right.
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Well, I was.
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You know I'm talking to these guys and talking about, you know, building myself up you know talking to myself about, you know, not only personal credit, but business credit as well Stocks as well.
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I've already asked these people here.
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Since I got here I know they're sick of me already I've turned in about 15, 20 pieces of request forms for all different types of things.
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They have sheet metal, they have welding, they have computer courses on business.
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I told them I needed a college course on business.
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I told them I needed a college course on business.
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So they said they had that, but everything is a waiting list.
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You know, what I mean.
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Everything is a waiting list.
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You could be on a waiting list for a year, two years.
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You know what I mean.
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Wow, so I got to keep pushing, keep reading books.
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Educate yourself.
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So for people who don't know what is a request form, oh, request form is things that you have to request to the administration, that whatever you want to do and you got to make sure you give it, present it to have it, attention to the right person or person in order to get it, or they'll send it back to you.
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I don't like to waste ink or paper right yeah, no to get it or they'll send it back to you.
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I don't like to waste ink or paper.
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No, for real, make sure it makes sense.
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You never know.
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That's what I say about writing letters and letting letters home in the same way.
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What do you say?
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I can write a letter all day long.
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It's very personal, but at the end of the day it's no different than the kiosk.
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That's why you know I like people that I can't contact.
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You know, get on the kiosk, I'll shoot you an email.
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You know I don't mind buying some stamps to shoot you an email to say, hey, you know buying stamps and then you know buying paper.
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You know I can't hustle backwards, I got to hustle forward.
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I like that.
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You're right, you can't hustle backwards.
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Yeah, I can't hustle backwards in here.
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I mean, I got to spend $5 on some sheets of paper, almost $1 on stamps, $50 on a stamp or $0.75, whatever they charge it now.
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Then I got to get the envelopes, all that that came up.
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You know, that's one stamp on the kiosk, yeah, and I can send you almost a book on the kiosk.
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Wow.
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Kind of switching lanes man you never know, who's listening.
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You never know who's listening.
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And you have children.
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You have a son and you have a daughter.
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How is that Two?
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daughters Two daughters.
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I'm sorry, I stand corrected.
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Two daughters, how does that feel?
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You know what I'm saying being away from them, not being able to communicate with them like you really desire to communicate.
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Yeah, you know, just like you know, all my yeah, you know, just like you know, all my kids, you know, I have one that's a daddy's girl and that's the youngest one.
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She's a daddy's girl.
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You know she lost her mother in 2018, december, but she's always been a daddy's girl.
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My oldest daughter, denisha, she's independent.
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She's very independent and have two grandkids, drew and Elena.
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Okay.
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And they're beautiful, you know what I'm saying with my son-in-law and then my son, younger son, timothy.
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Okay.
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My mini-me.
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My mini-mini-me, you know, he's a merchant seaman.
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He discussed with me he didn't want to go to college and he wanted to go make money right now.
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And uh, and you know, we sat on the phone and when I was in here and I, you know, I said that's what you truly desire to do.
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And then you gotta, you gotta go for it, and he's gone for it.
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And uh, he's been on the tour already got back and he's going on the second one.
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Loving it.
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Promotes you?
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Yeah, and I'm missing all of them.
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Yeah, no question.
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But that's why it's important for me to have the community help me out with writing letters so that I can get this part pushed forward as quick as possible.
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Got you.
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Yeah.
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Got you, yep.
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And miss the moms and the pops.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Right.
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And aunts and uncles and all y'all.
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You know, I miss everybody out there really.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Reason why I brought it up, man, because you know a lot of younger people.
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Whoever man, feel like you know they can play Russian roulette.
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Throw rocks at the prison walls, man, and feel like you know nothing's going to happen, man, but when that cage is locked behind you, man, nobody can you know help you.
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Yeah, you're on your own.
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That's right.
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Yeah, that's right.
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You hurt a lot of people.
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You just don't affect yourself.
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You affect a lot of people.
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Yeah, so that's why I wanted to bring that up.
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You don't.
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You don't want this life.
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This is not the life you want um it.
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You know, the fast life is not good life out there.
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You know I'm saying this we got to get the men back out.
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You got to get the return of the disciplined man must be that's dope filled in the house of of african americans and um, and we gotta stay out of this place.
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I got in here late, didn't want to ever be in here, didn't think I would ever be in here.
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But you know these kids, like I was telling you before, kids raising kids nowadays and just doing what they want to do.
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My former coach has a mentor program at one of the schools in the Virginia Beach Public Schools, high schools so he informed me that they're doing some good things there, and then some other former coaches talking to these young kids about staying out of trouble and what they can do to better themselves.
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So you know I want to be a part of that and you know, take my skill as far as music is concerned.
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Mentoring.
