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One two, virginia, here to share her experience that she went through with the passing of her daughter from a horrific situation in 2018.
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But she also shares how she got through it here to let somebody know who's going through the same thing, that you're not alone.
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So, hey, you don't want to miss this conversation today.
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Do me a favor Go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and gather around to listen to my conversation with me and Vikisha on let's Just Talk About it podcast.
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Hey, let's jump right in.
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Welcome back to another episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast.
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I have Miss Vikisha Smith on with us.
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How are you doing today?
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I'm doing all right, and yourself.
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Doing great, doing great.
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Thank you for being on.
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Thank you for having me, vakeesha on let's Just Talk About it podcast is a platform geared toward giving people an opportunity to share a portion of their life's journey, and I love to start off with this question when did you grow up?
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I actually grew up in Petersburg, Virginia, in Pecan Acres, but my mom moved us to Dinwiddie County when I was going to the middle school, so I was around about what 12?
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Okay, so you pretty much grew up in Dinwiddie.
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Okay, yes, so how was that for you as a kid in Dinwiddie?
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It was okay.
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I live in a nice neighborhood called Central Woods.
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My mom bought a house.
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She was proud of herself.
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My best friend actually lived in the same neighborhood when I moved there.
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I grew up with her in Petersburg, in Pecan Acres, and they moved and then when we moved out there she was in the neighborhood too.
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So it was pretty cool.
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I had my friends you know, went to school with with some people, met a couple of new people, friends got you, got you.
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What's one of your greatest childhood memories out there?
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in central woods.
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Yeah, when um the girls used to race the boys, we used to run track around the big circle so we had like relay races when we were younger.
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We used to just be very competitive.
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Outside fun Kids.
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Don't do that now, but yeah.
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Yeah, not at all.
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But, Kikisha, as I stated, let's Just Talk About it.
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Podcast is a platform geared towards giving you know, genuine people like yourself, an opportunity to share a piece of your life's journey.
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And so Keisha Cobb, who was recently a guest, introduced us to each other because she felt like you had a traumatic experience to share that could possibly help someone else get through their traumatic experience.
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And before this interview, we talked about.
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Your daughter lost her life by the negligence of a family member, you know.
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So I want to talk about that a little bit, because you never know who's listening, right?
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But first, in talking about your daughter, would you mind sharing with the listening audience what was your daughter?
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like.
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She was a competitive dancer and she danced for the school marching band.
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She ran track, she played soccer.
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She did all that while working at Burger King and maintaining a 3.0 grade average.
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She was a child of God.
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She was just a loving young lady.
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You know, I couldn't ask for two better girls.
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Got you, wow.
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What was your greatest memories about your daughter?
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We always did everything together Got you, wow.
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What was your greatest memories about your daughter?
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We always did everything together, Mm tight-knit.
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Yeah, mm.
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She was the one that always wanted to be with me.
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Okay.
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So everything I did or wherever I went, she wanted to go.
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If she could, she went with me.
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Wow, amazing Moving forward about your daughter.
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What's her name?
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What was her name?
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Her name was Keyasia Andrea Atkins.
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Wow, wow.
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So would you feel comfortable sharing what happened to your daughter with the listening audience so we can you know know what?
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yes, no problem.
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Um well, it was a Monday morning, I had volunteered to go to work at a veterans facility in Richmond and um, I left around about five something in the morning because I had to be at work at seven.
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I always try to leave a little early and I peeped in and checked in on an actual was her father or grandmother going to take her to cheer practice?
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Because she didn't want to drive her car?
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And she said she was going to call me and let me know.
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So I ended up leaving and I got to work a little bit before seven.
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And I started trying to call her about 10-ish that morning when I finally got a break to see who was going to take it to cheer practice, but I never got an answer.
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So I kept calling and calling and I never got an answer.
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And then when I called again her phone went to voicemail.
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So I remember that my nephew was there because it was right after the Father's Day weekend, and I asked him I said, is Kiesha there?
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I've been trying to call her and he was like no, she left.
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And I'm like left with who?
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And he was like she left with the boy.
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And I'm like, well, what did he look like?
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And he was like I don't know what he looked like.
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So I'm like, well, what kind of car did he have?
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He was like I don't know.
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So to me that kind of raised suspicions because if you know she left with a boy, you got some kind of idea what he looked like his stature clothes or something, what he's driving.
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And he said she left with a boy.
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So it didn't sound right to me.
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I got off the phone and I called her dad and I'm like, can you go to my mom's house and see if Ki-Aja there or find out what's going on?
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Because I've been trying to call her and I didn't get an answer.
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And I said my nephew told me that she left with a boy.
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But I know my kids, I know my daughters.
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When I called they answered and that's only dealing with stuff that I've been through in life.
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So I kind of worry a little bit.
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Right, he said, well, I'm going to go out there and check on her.
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But he waited until like two, three hours later to go see.
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So he eventually went out there.
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He talked to my nephew and my nephew told him that she left.
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She went to chair practice.
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So it didn't bother him.
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He figured that she already had arrived at chair practice because he knew he was going.
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So you know, hours went on, hours went on and I kept calling and I kept calling them like I'm not getting an answer and, like I said, it raised a flag to me when they don't answer or text me back.
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That's right, Because they already know the rules.
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If I call you answer.
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If you can't talk, text me.
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So later on it just kept getting later and I kept calling my mom.
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I think I called her dad and I think I called someone else, but I can't remember who it was.
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But I know it wasn't like my close friends or whatever, because it really didn't dawn on me to call them.
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But eventually I ended up leaving work because I was working a 16 hour shift.
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I ended up leaving about a little after 10 o'clock at night.
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So I ended up going to my old neighborhood where I used to live and asked one of her cheerleader friends if she came to.
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Did she come to practice today?
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Because I knew she had practice.
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So when the young lady told me that Keisha never showed up, they thought she had the driving range.
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It didn't, you know, dawn on them that she was missing.
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So I knew when she told me that she didn't come to cheer practice, something was wrong, because I knew she didn't have the driving range because we discussed that already.
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She had that that Wednesday and that Friday.
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So I immediately went home and I waited like till 12 o'clock because I wanted to have a 24 hour period, sort of kind of.
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But I didn't wait until six in the morning.
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I just called, at 12 o'clock.
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Right.
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And talked to the Dinwiddie County police and they told me that they was going to send someone out and they did and I did the report about, you know, a missing child or whatever.
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And they was trying to say that because it was the summer break, that she probably was out with friends and all of that.
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But I knew as a mother that my kid wasn't out at parties and doing things because I didn't get that information from her Right right.
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So I knew that couldn't have been it.
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So it went on for days buried in a shallow grave wow.
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So how far is that from where you live, your mom?
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my mom, um, owns a house, like I said, in century woods so it was maybe, I think they said a thousand yards from her house, so it's like a wooded area around century woods.
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So she was buried on the side of the wooded area, where it's like a bunch of trees and leaves and stuff like that.
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So it's like it's not houses, there's just a bunch of uh, wood area so they told you they found it.
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What was your first reaction to that?
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well, I really can't say I had a reaction because I was still kind of shocked because she was missing right because, like I said, it was so many days and, um, I didn't know what to think.
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Yeah, because she was missing for so many days, I had all kinds of thoughts in my head.
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That's what I was going to ask you.
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What was going through your mind those days that you didn't hear or see your daughter?
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That had to be kind of devastating, Like wow, where is she at?
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I wasn't sleeping.
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I stayed up the entire time looking out the window, hoping she'll pull up or whatever.
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But then I got the thinking of, like trafficking, you know, all different types of stuff, was just going through my head right.
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So when they came and they was going to do the search, it didn't take them long.
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It took them maybe like 10-15 minutes to find her because they had a cadaver dog.
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I was praying to God.
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I was like, look, I don't care how you bring her back to me, just bring her back to me wow.
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So what made them go to your mom's house?
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Because my nephew was there and they have where the suspect I guess is like the last person that's seen him or been around or whatever, and he had an ankle monitor on whatever tracking that they use to locate her or her phone.
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They use your phone to bing it and all that.
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Her phone never left my mom's house, so they use your phone to be in and all that.
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Her phone never left my mom's house.
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So they said she never left.
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So and then they had questioned, um, my nephew, and he told them, I guess, the same story that she had left, but his story wasn't adding up to you know what they seen.
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And then he, yeah, and he also had, took a lie detective test and he failed that, which you can't use stuff like that in court.
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But they knew he was lying, so his ankle monitor put him in an area where she was, where her body was found.
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But I'm not quite sure if that's exactly how they found him.
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But, like I said, they had a cadaver dog and the man that had the dog said once the dog got out there, the dog ran to her immediately, but he didn't give the dog a command.
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So they didn't.
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You know, I'm not going to say pay attention.
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They just called the dog back.
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And then they told the dog to find her and he ran to the same area.
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But they called the dog back just again because the dog was moving so quickly.
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So then when they pulled the dog back the dog went again.
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So they said, okay, something's got to be over there.
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So when they went over there I guess you know they have a smell or a stitch Right when they could find a corpse or a dead person, they immediately seen like her arm from under the leaves.
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So they noticed that it was a body.
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They couldn't say for sure if it was her at the time, but when they went over there they they found her and they came back into the home and was like, well, we found.
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They didn't say we found her, they just said we found the body.
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We can't say if it's her or not because, um, when they found her she had two black trash bags zip tied against her head.
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So I don't think they removed that until they identified yeah, to identify her, but they did ask me for like identifying marks and I remember that I had just took her the month before before her birthday to get a tattoo.
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She wanted a torch tattoo and I got it on her upper left shoulder.
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And then I also remember that we went and got our nails done and I told them the color of her nail polish on her toes and her fingers.
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So when they came back hours later because I had to leave the home because they did like you know how they put the yellow- tape up, Yellow tape around yeah.
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We had to leave the crime scene so they put me in a hotel.
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So they came back like hours later and was asking me, like the identifying marks again, and that's what I told them Wow, and then they showed me, look, a small picture of her tattoo, like just the picture of the tattoo, and I identified that.
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And that's when I asked them about the nail polish and that's how I got to identify her.
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Did you like have like a feeling that that was her at the time?
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When they told me that they found A body, mm-hmm, I kind of knew it was her because, like I said, for her to be gone so long and—.
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And near your mother's house.
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Yeah, and at my mom's house I kind of knew when they said we found a body.
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I'm like that's her, you know.
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Wow, because it was just so close.
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Yeah, absolutely so, being—that's your mom's house, mm-hmm, how does your mother react to that being so near to her house?
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It had to be devastating, not only to you, but to her as well.
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Yes, it really took a toll on my mom.
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She just cried a lot.
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She's not, she's not one of those parents that would express her emotions or feelings or whatever.
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And during that time it was so many emotions within my family that I was angry with her.
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And I was angry with her because his behavior was gearing up to, I guess, the act that he did, because he went off that morning on my mother's friend.
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But, like I said, it was so early that we had just moved back with my mom.
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She didn't think that she, I guess she forgot that Kiesha was still there right in the room sleeping.
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So she just immediately moved her friend out and they left.
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So she left him and her there, but Kiesha was asleep and Anton was still there wow.
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So, as I stated, that's your family member yes, that's my brother's, son wow, wow, that's.
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That's complicated because there has to be, like a lot of you know what I mean going a lot of animosity, being that's a family member, so it's like you have to love them at the same time because you're related to them.
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On the other hand, there's anger because of what he did to your daughter.
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How did you balance that?
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During that time I didn't balance it because I was more angry than I was love.
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I was angry with him Makes sense.
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I was angry with my brother.
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I was angry with my mom, I was angry with his mom.
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So at that time and for the first two, three years, I was angry.
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It was nothing they could say or do to make me feel better because, at the end of the day, your child, regardless if he's away or not, he's still alive.
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My child is not and I don't know this.
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I don't know what actually happened, because she's not here to tell to tell it what happened and I would never probably know wow, so you said for three years there was like anger and no, no communication yes, I wasn't communicating with my brother.
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I started talking with my mom, but I was angry with her too because I felt like she could have, you know, got my daughter's attention and got her up, let her leave, get in her car and go stay with her dad If she saw this behavior in this young man.
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But then I realized we had just moved back and my mom was older.
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She probably wasn't thinking to get Keisha out of the house.
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She was just trying to diffuse the situation at that moment with her friend, with this young man.
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Right, Because I guess in your mind you never think like something like that will take place.
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You know, yes, yeah, wow, it's been since what?
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2000,.
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You said 18?
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2018.
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Wow.
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So how has that grieving process been like you know since then?
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How did you get through that?
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First and foremost, foremost, I never lost faith in God.
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Um.
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Second, I ended up leaving my job and started traveling as a nurse, going out of the states, going to different states.
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Um, me and my daughter used to love to go to the beaches, so I constantly went to the beach.
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That was like a place of peace.
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I saw a psychiatrist, started seeing a psychiatrist Even when I was on the road.
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We did phone conversations, so a lot of that Played a part, yeah.
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And then I had friends that was there for me.
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When I wasn't In a good head space, they would be around.
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Yeah.
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So it took a lot, it really did, and it took patience and just took a lot it really did and it's a patience and just took a lot of time.
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I'm not going to say I'm completely healed.
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I don't think I ever will be yeah, but it just took.
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It just took time.
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Wow, so you talked about therapy, and so talk to us about that process of going to therapy, because sometimes people feel like they don't need therapy to get through moments.
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How important has therapy been to you to navigate through it?
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You know what I'm saying, like how has it helped you?
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It helped tremendously A lot of people, a lot of black people don't think therapy is good.
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They don't want to tell people your business, but sometimes you can talk to someone you don't know is good.
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They don't want to tell people your business, but sometimes you can talk to someone you don't know better than you can talk to someone you do know.
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You can be more open and free to speak with that person and you know they're not going to judge or anything and they're getting to like the root of the problems or whatever situation you may have.
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And, like I say, it helped me out because even still dealing with my kids death, I still had other things that I didn't get over as a child.
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So it was bringing those things back up.
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Why, like the way I was feeling with my kids, like I didn't want them to leave without telling me stuff, why don't you know them calling me all the time, just constantly checking on them?
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So learning and remembering why I was like that it helped with past traumas got you.
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Wow, you talk about past trauma.
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What were some of the things that going to therapy triggered that reminded you of what you were going through?
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trusting people got you it made it more difficult and I still have that problem a little bit, um, with trusting people.
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Got you, it made it more difficult and I still have that problem a little bit with trusting people because, like I said with my pastor, I had problems growing up trusting people, you know, and then I didn't even think that I would have to worry about it in my own family.
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Got you.
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So, yeah, trust is big.
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You're right, it's like once it's broken.
