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Lets Just Talk About It Podcast with Chuck

You're about to be taken on an inspirational journey with my guest, Terence Bull Terry, a man who leveraged adversity to fuel his dreams. Born and raised in Hopewell, Virginia, Terence opens up about his childhood, his passion for football that led him to college, and the importance of education. He emphasizes how he took life's hardships head-on, growing up between different households, and used it as motivation to chase his dreams. When football was his solace, Bull Terry was born, a testament to his resilience and tenacity.

Fast forward to today and Terence is a beacon of positivity, using his past struggles as a steppingstone towards creating a better future. He's turned his life lessons into three impactful brands - Dreams 2 Reality, 1405 and J Christ. Each a reflection of his personal journey; Dreams 2 Reality is all about making your dreams come true,1405 is all about spreading positivity, while J Christ is a manifestation of his deep-rooted faith in Jesus .
We end our conversation with a heartfelt prayer from Terence for those tackling depression, anxiety, and thoughts of suicide. Join us, and be inspired by Terence’s wisdom, resilience, entrepreneurial spirit, and unshakeable faith. This is not just an episode, it's a testament to the strength of the human spirit.

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Transcript
Speaker 1:

Welcome back to another episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast. I'm your host, chuck, and if you're here for the first time, this platform was created to give genuine people just like you an opportunity to share a portion of your life's journey. So, with that being said, I have Terence Bull Terry on with me today, but we have a great conversation about how it was for him growing up in the city of Hopewell, Virginia, and also what he's up to now as an entrepreneur with his own clothing line. So, you don't want to miss this. As a matter of fact, do me a favor go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and listen into my conversation with Terrence or let's just talk about it podcast. Hey, let's jump right in Today. I have special guest Terence Terry all with me today. So, first of all, man, thank you so much for being a part of my episode on this podcast.

Speaker 2:

You're a thank you very much. I appreciate you having me and I love what you're doing. I really do. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

I really do. Yes, sir man. Thank you so much. How's it going today?

Speaker 2:

I'm doing fine, Just trying to stay cool man Cooking man. I didn't drunk so much water today, man, I need to take a break from water now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how about you doing? Good man, I appreciate it. No problem, man. Terrence, I love the jump right into my interviews to have those genuine conversations with genuine people just like yourself, because I believe everybody has a journey, their own unique story. So, first of all, where you from.

Speaker 2:

Originally from Hopewell, virginia, about 30 minutes from Richmond. Yes, sir, have you ever heard of Hopewell before? Yeah, absolutely Hopewell. Okay, cool, yep, that's where I'm from originally. That's where I was born and raised Hopewell 804.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, shout out to 804.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the 804. That's where I'm from. Dawg 757 Cool too, but 804.

Speaker 1:

804, absolutely, hey, man. We met passing by at the Outlet Mall. Oh yeah, you had your t-shirts and I was encouraged by your energy to market your own thing, man. So we exchanged information. You follow on my phone, so here we are.

Speaker 2:

Yep, here we are Doing interviews.

Speaker 1:

So how was it for you growing up in the 804, man?

Speaker 2:

Oh, it was great man. You know I've been living in the 804 from basically born until about, I'll say, about 2021. It's been great. You know, I played sports all my life, mm-hmm. You know big football fans Got you. I wrestled, tracked. You know what I'm saying, but it was great, had a great childhood. You know, yeah, had a real good time, got you. If I can do it all over again, I would Okay, yeah, that's good man.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people can't say that, yeah right, you're right. Yeah, man. So that's a good thing. So it was good growing up in Richmond. So how you make it to 757? Hampton Rose Avenue, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I'm currently 28 right now. Okay, I've been living in 757 since I was 24. Got you, I moved here when I was 24, came down here to work. You know I was working in the. You know in Linhavet Mall was that I was working. I had a kiosk in Linhavet Mall for about a year.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Because I had a friend that was selling t-shirts as well and he had his own business going and I came down to help him out and, you know, started my own thing as well. So that's what led me to come down. 757, you know, working in Linhavet Mall and building the brand, you know I got you, I got you, so let's go back.

Speaker 1:

You had a good upbringing. So how was it when you, you know, got out of the house? And I always say, man, you never know who's listening. Your journey may encourage somebody where they are in life or help them go the other direction. I don't know who knows, but how was it for you when you, you know, got grown enough to leave home?

Speaker 2:

Actually, I moved out the house when I was 18. You ever heard of Farham College? Farham College, yeah, I went to Farham College to play football. So that's when I first moved out. The house Got you. So that's when I moved out to Farham College. I was in the first year of college. It was cool. Of course, you know, when you leave the house, you know it's new challenges and new things, you know. So I had to adjust. You know I was homesick a lot but I adapted well, I really did.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a lot of kids leaving for school right now. You know what I mean, oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:

And there's a lot of schools in 757, man Like I know a couple of students NSU Hampton. Oh yeah, it's nice man, it's cool to see you know dreams and stuff you know. Absolutely, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what encouragement would you give them right now, knowing that you've been through the college scene? What would you tell them right now?

Speaker 2:

I would encourage any young brother, young sister to man look, if you have opportunity to go to school, do it. Don't look back and take advantage Like seriously, because it goes by quick. You really do it. It goes by real fast. Yeah, if God gave you opportunity to go to college, I would say to do it. And you know, don't look back. You know nothing's supposed to be easy, but if you just put your effort into it, it won't be hard either. You know, you just got to believe and take it one day at a time and work hard and you'll get there. You'll get where you're supposed to go.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Oh yeah, hey, man, I believe everything was and is created for a purpose. You know, to solve a problem. So what do you think your purpose is in life? Because so many people always ask this question, so many people are searching for purpose right now. So what do you think your purpose is?

Speaker 2:

I believe so far. You know, currently I'm 28 years old and I've been through a few different phase of my life. You know changes and stuff I had to go through. You know, and I say the way I'm going through and feeling right now, my purpose is to, of course, number one is to I believe in God. You know, I want to bring people to God. You know what I'm saying. Encourage people to know God. But my purpose in my heart right now is to really love people every day. Love and show people God. You know the God in me every day. That's my purpose, you know. Encourage people to chase their dreams, you know, because, yes, sir, I really love to encourage people to be better. You know, that's why I make t-shirts and clothes. You know one of my brand. I have a few t-shirt lines and one of them is called Dreams to Reality. Okay, basically, you know, I want to encourage people to chase their dreams, because you only live once, man. You really do, and you know, you never know what tomorrow may bring. So, work hard and you live your best life and go for your dreams, man, you know, and I want to encourage people to chase their dreams and even if it ain't a dream, whatever your goal is, you know, just go for it. You know, don't settle, take risks.

Speaker 1:

Got you. I love that, man. Thanks, man. So you are a young, 28-year-old entrepreneur then? Yes, sir, I sure am. Yeah. So how you go about selling your t-shirts, man? Because when I saw you in the mall, you just what size you wear. Oh yeah, you know it, man, I like your style, man, you believe in your brand.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir, so you was like what size?

Speaker 1:

you wear. I was like huh, yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

No fear, yeah, absolutely, I learned a lot of that. I ain't always been like this, you know, but I learned a lot of that. You know, walking up to people, talking to different people, man, but first, you know, working in the mall I worked in the mall for over a year and I've, like, met so many different people young, old, different ethnicities and I thank God for that I learned how to talk to different people. Yeah, I've learned to not be afraid of a no, you know, because everybody's like, yeah, you know, I've learned to some people's gonna support, some people's not, some people's gonna reject, some people's gonna accept, you know, but I've learned to just embrace it all and keep a smile on my face, you know. So I'm very passionate about t-shirts and clothes because, you know, when I meet somebody, you never know I might not ever see this person again, right? So I want to leave a positive impact, you know, and yeah, I know it's a t-shirt, but wearing a t-shirt is powerful. It's a message, because somebody else will see the message on your shirt and they're like wow, let me do this, let me go about it this way. So that's the impact that I want to have, a positive impact on anybody.

Speaker 1:

Man, I like what you said about you can take a no, because this generation can't accept no for an answer. And sometimes in life you just go and get a no. But that doesn't mean that you're out of pocket, you're out of purpose. It just means like you just got to keep going, keep striving to fulfill that dream. So I like what you said about that man.

Speaker 2:

You learn how to take a no, that's good, yeah, man, you got to learn how to take a no. If you want that, yes, you're going to have to go through the nose, and I had to learn that Wow. They don't feel good, but you don't know, it don't you know. But I still, even when I get a no, I still try to make the person smile and encourage them. You know, and most of the time if a person say no, they still say thank you for the encouragement, you know. So I still feel like in that moment, you know, I had a purpose. In that moment with that person I left a positive message for somebody. Help somebody else feel good. You know, man, that's what it's all about, man, people might not remember what you say, but people remember how you made them feel.

Speaker 1:

How you made them feel. I like that, yeah, oh yeah, for real. So it's nothing wrong with being nice sometimes.

Speaker 2:

It's nothing wrong with being nice, it's nothing wrong. Oh yeah, never know people going through, sir. Never know, never know.

Speaker 1:

Wow, let me ask you this what are two people that have been most influential in your life? You know that have impacted your life.

Speaker 2:

Number one is God and number two is my mom. Oh yeah, I appreciate God, you know, and I appreciate my mom. I love that man, I love you. I thank God for my mom. One thing I learned about her, you know, is that she's a very good person. Unconditional love. You know whether I'm right or wrong. You know I can just yeah, man, I need that, you know we need that. Sometimes Somebody call and yes, sir, you know, I thank God for that.

Speaker 1:

Talk about that, man, moms. You know how important they are, and sometimes we don't realize how important it is until it's not there anymore. You know what? I'm saying yeah, so shout out to you mom.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to you mom, love you, mom, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1:

Wow, wow, man, it's a lot going on with young guys, with the murder and all of these other things going on that we see from day to day with our youth, our young black youth. So, man, can you speak to that and what can we do better to change the environment?

Speaker 2:

You know the generation that we're in, sir, like a lot of kids, are accessible to he keep calling me sir yo.

Speaker 1:

You make me say oh go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

You know, you just respect. I respect you though.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to you, man.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to you, yeah, sir, these kids man, it's like the kids growing up, man with no discipline and no, you know, just no care in the world, no integrity man, just doing whatever they want. And you know, I'm very passionate about the youth as well, because you know they need somebody to look up to and it takes, you know, brothers like me and you, you know, to step up and just be a big brother. You know like, in order to make a change, we're going to have to reach out. That's the only way that's going to be able to make a difference, because if not, it's just going to continue to go this way. It's been going. You know, like it's going to take the people to just step out there and reach out. So, same with youth, sir. You know what I do. You know I definitely, when the Lord allows me to run into somebody young, I give my word, yeah, I give my word of encouragement. I tell them, hey, what you doing, what you up to, and I try to, you know, give them a dream, a vision, because sometimes most of these kids don't have that. Yeah, a lot of these kids, you don't know what they're going through at home. You know, and you know when I try to talk to somebody else young, I always tell them about God. I always because that's the number one thing. You know, you got to know God because he's going to help you through it all you know, and I try to tell him about that. And I try to tell him about, hey, you know you're young, do you want to go to school? Do you want to go to college? What do you want to do with yourself? Because you're not going to be another statistic. I just try to tell them the real deal and show them that love and compassion, like stuff they need to hear. Because, once again, like I said, these kids they need a big brother, they need somebody positive to look up to, because most of the people that I'll say you know, that celebrity or famous that most of these kids look up to, they bad influences. So it's going to take somebody you know that's doing something positive and being successful, that you know that's doing something good that they can look up to. So that's what I try to promote promote positivity.

Speaker 1:

You definitely answered my question. I was going to ask you what would you say to a young male today if you had a chance to, and you definitely answered that man, and that's good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely man. And, piggybacking on what you said, I love that because you expose their minds to something different than what they see every day. You know what I mean, right, right, you know a dream. You can become something more than your environment. You know what I'm saying. So that's like exposing their minds to something different, something bigger, something better. You know, yes, yes, yeah, I like that man Shout out to you man, you're 28, man, and I love your energy, I love your passion for what you do. That's for real, man.

Speaker 2:

Thank you very much. Thank you, chuck. Absolutely. I love what you're doing too, sir. I really do my brother Appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1:

Man, if you could go back, I love to ask this question If you could go back to talk to the younger Terrence today to give him encouragement, what would you say to him? Can you give me an age? Let's go back to the 10-year-old Terrence.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, shoot man, 10 years old. That was my second year playing football. Ok, and my first year I was nine, I didn't really get to hang of it like that, but my second year I started, you know, really getting to hang of it and playing pretty well. So what I would do is, if I can go back to 10 years old, I would definitely go to more camps and stuff like that and just continue to train and work hard, you know. But, like I said, I was a good kid growing up. I made good grades, I didn't get into no trouble and nothing like that growing up. So I would really just tell my younger self to just work harder, you know, just keep working harder and keep my dream alive. And I would definitely live with my mom because I was my mom and dad was separated, you know. But I would definitely try to live more of my dad, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, I got you More balance yeah. Yeah, get that male figure. Yeah, that male figure.

Speaker 2:

But I didn't let it stop me. You know, I took what I was given and I worked hard and I didn't look back.

Speaker 1:

Right, wow, amazing.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Man, I know you're outside, I know you're at work, man, and I appreciate your time, appreciate your time.

Speaker 2:

I've been looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to this, so it's all good Wow man, yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

So let me ask you this man, you talk about your mom and dad, you know, not being together in the same household. Did that have like an effect mentally? Because, yeah, you know, because there are a lot of households that had either the mother more so than the father, you know, but you have both, but in different households. So did that affect you mentally growing up? Oh, yeah, it did, because you never know who's listening.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, Shoot, growing up, my dad, like I said, I love my dad, that's my. I love my dad, I love my mom with all my heart. And you know just my younger years, you know, my dad was in prison, you know, in my younger years. Then he came home and tried to be with my mom but things just didn't work out. You know, just too much going on. So they ended up, you know, just living separate. You know, for a little while it was just one point in my life. I had to stay with my mom, to stay with my grandma, to stay with my dad, stuff like that. But all the pain and stuff at a young age, like that, you know, because I wanted everybody to be together, you know, and I didn't understand when I was young, young, you know, I didn't really understand why we couldn't just be happy and, you know, be together in one household. But I let all that pain, just, you know, put me in the football field. You know I use it all over the football field. That's where my nickname came from, you know, because I just use all that pain and just I played running back, lying back. You know, I just use all that pain and I listen to Ray Lewis.

Speaker 1:

you know growing up stuff like that so that's my motivation, man, wow, that's amazing man. That's amazing. Thank you. Yeah, the reason I say it's amazing because you tunneled your energy into something positive and it made me think about a lot of people may be going through that same pain of not having that. You know that two parents love, so they take that energy and turn it into a negative thing sometimes, but you took your energy and put it on the football field, and they call you Bull Terry. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, you was a bull on the football field.

Speaker 2:

I was a bull on the football field, sir. I go right through them. Wow, that's how you do it. Show no mercy on that field. No mercy man.

Speaker 1:

Got you Shut up to you, man, so that was like a traumatic thing not having your parents in the same house, but you overcame that man. Oh yeah, yes, sir, sure did.

Speaker 2:

You still Bull Terry? Yes, sir, I'm still Bull Terry. Yeah, I just transitioned that into how I operate my life now. You know I, just when I go out to sell the t-shirt or whatever I'm doing, you know I just go for it. You know I just go hard, work hard. You know I don't look back, no fear, that's how I try to carry myself. Just take the risk, you know.

Speaker 1:

Great example man.

Speaker 2:

Take a risk, take a risk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I was sad to box.

Speaker 2:

You have to, especially in these days, if you want to do something. You just got to do it. Yeah, creativity is powerful man. That's what I've been thinking about lately.

Speaker 1:

Creativity, John C Maxwell. I've been reading this book about you know thinking, and he talks about creativity, being creative, finding that creative niche about yourself and going for it. Thinking outside the box, man, and so I hear that in your voice. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to be, you know, normal. You want to think outside the box man. Yeah, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2:

I love it too, man.

Speaker 1:

You got to be different, man.

Speaker 2:

That's how you do it. That's how you get what you want. Sometimes you got to be different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you sell your shirts. What do you? What do you like to do for fun, man, that makes you come alive when you do it. Talk about that.

Speaker 2:

Outside of work. One of the most things I like to do that make me come alive through is spend time with my son. I got a little son, Okay Shout out to your son, man. Shout out to my son man. You know he look up to me. You know I want, every day, as much as I can, you know I want to. You know, teach him everything I know and encourage him to be better than me. You know I get a joy out of spending time with him him spending time with me, you know, because he watches me and I want him to learn everything that I'm doing, you know, and that's really besides working I'm always working, but what I'm not working, I'm always trying to just spend time with him and be with him, you know, and teach him everything, because he literally follows me everywhere I go, you know, and that's some of my motivation that keeps me doing what I'm doing. I like going to the gym. I like bowling. You know, I really like bowling a lot. You know I love going to football games still a couple college games around here. I go to NSU over here. I like supporting them. You know they've got to start up, so I'm about to go to a couple NSU games. Okay, this is season, football season. Oh yeah, I'm about to go check them out. I love supporting them, man, you know yeah, man, I love you, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So as we wrap things up, man, talk about your shirts again. I want you to promote your shirts so people can support what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I appreciate y'all listening. My name is Terrence Terry, aka Bull Terry. I have a few clothing lines. One of them is called Dreams to Reality. It means to basically chase your dream, have faith, make it come true with hard work, discipline. I got another clothing brand. It's called 1405. It means to use your struggles as motivation. Where 1405 came from? That's my old address from when I was a child. You know, growing up trying to just seeing my mom and dad not get along, and you know seeing them. You know all the difficulties and different stuff we went through in that household. You know I could have went down the wrong route, but something in me just told me. You know I need to stay focused. I need to let all this stuff keep me motivated. So that brand means to use your struggles at motivation. And then I got another brand. It's called Jay Christ and basically what that means is you know, jesus Christ. You know, yeah, I like to promote his name too, you know. So you can go on my Instagram page. My Instagram page is super TE1K and my Facebook page is Bull Terry, and you can go on there and support and keep me up. I'm building my website right now. Well, for right now. If you want to support us, feel free to message me or like a picture. I can send you my information. But I really am about promoting positivity. Positivity all day is already enough negativity. So absolutely, you know, oh yeah, god don't want us to promote negativity, he wants us to promote positivity.

Speaker 1:

So I love it, man, glad that I met you. So what would you say to me? Absolutely, man. What would you say to a person right now I love you, I love your positivity. What would you say to a person right now you see on your job and they look down, they look depressed, have anxiety going on. What would you say to him right now?

Speaker 2:

I would say, hey, how you doing? And if they tell me they not doing so well, I would try to my best to just say, hey, hang in there, a better day is coming. You know, this too shall pass and depending on the situation, you know, always try to. You know, if they afford, I'll say a prayer or encourage a hug, whatever the person needs. I'm gonna try my best to just encourage and show some love, make them feel better, make them laugh, you know. But if somebody is depressed, I always try to put a smile on their face and say, hey, I'm here for you, you need me. Feel free to reach out. You're not in this alone, got you man? Once again, you don't know what people are going through, so always try to encourage somebody. Yeah, suicide man, especially men man, the men is one thing about men. You know a lot of men I ain't gonna say all men, but a lot of men they hold a lot of emotions inside, you know, and I'm a witness of that too. I do that too, you know. Sometimes, you know.

Speaker 1:

What does that look like for you, holding your emotions in? Oh?

Speaker 2:

yeah, well, I used to. I'm not like this, no more. I used to. You know, hold a man. I used to feel like I couldn't, you know, talk to nobody, have nobody to talk to. But it's time when, oh, I had to learn, okay, I need to start reaching out to people and, you know, opening up, because, if not, it was just causing a lot of anger inside different stuff I went through, you know, and it's good to always have somebody to talk to, always, yeah, outlet, wow, outlet. You got to, because, if not, it's just gonna grow and grow and grow and then something happens, you explode, yeah, and that's not a good thing. Oh, yeah, wow. So if anybody needs somebody to talk to you, advice, you feel free. You can hit me up anytime on social media. Shoot, I ain't giving you my number, it don't matter. Shout it out, my number 804-590-5407. That's my number. Thanks, call me, send a text. I'll reach out back to you. I really will.

Speaker 1:

My man Bull, Terry boy, I tell you?

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

Anybody you want to give a shout out to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just want to shout out to my son. I want to shout out to my son, I want to shout out to my wife I love y'all. Shout out to my mom Amazing. And shout out to you Chuck, Appreciate you man, Thanks, Chuck, I appreciate you too. Man, you was cool man. I was like man, let me say what's up to this brother. Man, I had to say what's up to you, man, who's the outlet boy? Yeah, yeah, I said let me do the cool man. It's a cool dude right here. Tall dude too, bro, how tall are you, sir?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 6'2".

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you tall man. Let me say what's up to this brother, and I appreciate you stopping too, Like I really do. When I stop somebody like that, I always tell them you know, I appreciate you stopping you never know. Yeah, I appreciate it, I really do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it was a good moment.

Speaker 2:

It was a good moment it was, it was a god moment. I was like you got Facebook.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you push follow. I said, boy, you don't like that, I had to. Yeah, sir.

Speaker 2:

I said he might not push follow, so let me do it, you know man, I've never done this on my episode.

Speaker 1:

I've never done this on my episode before, but I feel like man, you're pure guy, you're real guy, man. I want you as I close to say a quick prayer, man, for those going through depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, because you never know who's going to hear this episode. So would you do that for me?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, come on, let's do it All right. Dear heavenly father, we just want to say thank you so much for Chuck and his awesome podcast. First, I pray that you will bless my brother and his awesome podcast. And, lord, we come before you asking that for anybody, for everybody that's going to listen to this Lord, that's going through suicide, depression, anything, god, that's not of you. Lord, I plead the blood of Jesus over them. I pray that you will give them strength to keep going. I pray that you will keep them at peace in their mind, give them the peace and the clarity they need to keep going on their journey. Lord, we know, lord, that you can work all things out for the good. Anything that's bad you can turn it around for good. I pray that anything that's going on that's bad in someone's life, that you will turn it around for good and give them the strength to keep believing in you, because you said, lord, you will never leave us nor forsake us, lord. So, lord, we give you all the praise, we pray that any spirit of depression, anything, we cancel it now and we pray for your peace and love in Jesus name, amen.

Speaker 1:

Amen. Thank you, man Shout out to Bull Terry.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

Mr Chuck, my brother. Yes, sir, man, appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on. Let's just talk about it Podcasts. We're going to do this another time again. So, oh yeah, thank you, man. Thank you, thank you, chuck. Yes, sir, talk to you soon.

Speaker 2:

Okay, sir, all right, all right.

Speaker 1:

Wow, what an amazing conversation. Shout out to my friend, terrence Bull Terry, for having this dialogue with me. You know, one of the things he said that really stuck out to me was about living outside the box, in other words, not living an average life, but taking risks sometimes in order to bring our dreams to reality. So, after listening to this conversation with Terrence, you now realize that it's not too late to follow your dreams. So take that risk, because life is short and we only get one life to live. So shout out to you, terrence, as always. Thank you so much for tuning in to let's Just Talk About it Podcasts, and please check out my website. Just Google let's Just Talk About it Podcastscom and then hit that subscribe button to receive all the new episodes every Friday. You can also find me on Facebook. Just type in Chuck LJTAI, which means let's Just Talk About it. So, as always, until next time, don't hold it in, but let's Just Talk About it. Talk to you soon. Let's Just Talk About it Podcasts.