(Ep.63) My Truth…

Chuck: 0:11

Welcome back to a brand new episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast. I'm your host, chuck, and if you're here for the first time, this platform was created to give genuine people just like you an opportunity to share a portion of your life's journey. So, with that being said, today I'm excited to have returning guest Ursula McCrae, also known as Miss Loxx, a member of the Lady Unity Rydaz 757, who agreed to come back on to share her journey. So, you don't want to miss this amazing conversation, because this is definitely a book that needs to be written. As a matter of fact, do me a favor go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and listen into my conversation with Miss Locke's or let's Just Talk About it podcast. Hey, let's jump right in. Welcome back to another episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast Today. I have my special guest, miss Locke's L-O-X-X on with me today. So, first of all, Ms. Loxx, how you are doing today.

Ms. Loxx: 1:13

I'm doing good in you.

Chuck: 1:15

Doing great. You're a member of the Lady Unity Rydaz 757. So, I want to welcome you back on with me and I really enjoyed our conversation outside in Norfolk where I was given back to the community. So, thank you for agreeing to come on and do a personal interview today.

Ms. Loxx: 1:32

No problem at all.

Chuck: 1:34

Absolutely. I love to jump right into my interviews, Ms. Loxx, to have that genuine conversation with genuine people just like you, because I believe everybody has their own unique journey. Some are good and some are not so good, but everybody has a story to share that could possibly inspire someone else to keep on going. So, first of all, with that being said, where you from, I'm originally from Chester Virginia.

Ms. Loxx: 1:59

born and raised, I'm a country girl.

Chuck: 2:01

Wow, chester, virginia, that's where.

Ms. Loxx: 2:03

It's on before you get to the Richmond area.

Chuck: 2:06

OK, the Richmond area. Wow, shout out to Chester. How was it for you growing up in that area?

Ms. Loxx: 2:14

Growing up, I honestly had a great childhood. Like I said, I'm a country girl. We was born and raised on a farm. That's how we made a living. That's what my grandparents did, my mom did. I loved it. I don't have any bad memories of a childhood.

Chuck: 2:31

Of the farm. I've never talked to anybody who grew up on a farm.

Ms. Loxx: 2:36

Yes, so we had hogs and chickens and everything.

Chuck: 2:40

Wow, so you actually got up in the morning and milked the cows.

Ms. Loxx: 2:47

Well, me personally, no, I did not, but my grandfather yes. I mean, we had outdoor plumbing. I remember actually getting indoor plumbing and I'm not that old, I'm only 46. But you remember. But yes, I do. I remember chasing chickens for dinner and yeah, that was us.

Chuck: 3:13

Wow, that's interesting. So you chased the chickens and actually caught them to eat dinner.

Ms. Loxx: 3:19

Yes, amazing. I remember my grandfather ringing the chicken's neck to snap the neck.

Chuck: 3:25

Wow, you saw all these things growing up.

Ms. Loxx: 3:27

That's an experience, that's a real experience, but it was interesting, it makes you appreciate stuff more Exactly, exactly.

Chuck: 3:35

You know how to survive. Then you have no other course. Yeah, if you had to. Wow, so you're in Chester on a farm. You're growing up going to school from the farm, so how was that like for you being in that household doing it?

Ms. Loxx: 3:53

Well, as a teenager, life got a little bit better. It was normal because everybody on our street was the same way, so it wasn't nothing abnormal for me. But then, as I got older, we did end up moving out of that area, but still, my childhood wasn't nothing for it about it. So my mom and dad, they provided the best for us. My mom retired from DuPont, my dad retired from Fulhamorris, so we never wanted or needed for anything. They were great.

Chuck: 4:27

So once you got old, as a teenager or grown up, how was that like for you when you finally left home from the farm? Did you miss it?

Ms. Loxx: 4:36

No, I did miss it, but I became a mom real early. I was 20 with my first daughter, so I became a child to an adult very fast, not saying that 20 was young, but I've known younger. But I became a mom, a wife, at a very young age. So that was my lifestyle. It was just a child to an adult. I didn't have that in between area.

Chuck: 5:08

So you just trained just a little bit fast. Yeah, To raise your you had a daughter or son.

Ms. Loxx: 5:14

I had a daughter and I have two girls. Ok, yes.

Chuck: 5:17

So you really had to grow up fast, doing that time to become a mom.

Ms. Loxx: 5:21

I did, I really did, so it was very interesting. And then both of my girls. I had two premature babies, so that was another interesting factor with that as well, so I had to really learn very fast. Yeah, just.

Chuck: 5:37

That's a lot. Very fast, that's a lot. What was that feeling like at that young age raising? You said a premature baby.

Ms. Loxx: 5:45

Yes, my first daughter was only a pound and a half at birth weight. My second daughter was three pounds at birth weight.

Chuck: 5:52

Wow.

Ms. Loxx: 5:53

A lot of complications with my first daughter. They told me that she was not going to make it to age one. My daughter is 27 now, so what's her name?

Chuck: 6:03

Marseille, marseille, shout out to you.

Ms. Loxx: 6:08

So that was a very complicated situation, but we got through it. And they say they don't believe it. But doctors are good, but it's only one person that can really make that final decision. So, but she's here, no complications. Wow, I have two grandchildren, so, yes, everything is fine.

Chuck: 6:30

Wow. So you're married, you're young and you're a mom. How was that experience having a relationship?

Ms. Loxx: 6:37

Was he involved in that whole situation of yes, their dad was involved in the whole situation and we were together for 22 years, so it wasn't like a five night situation. We got married very young. I think I started dating him when I was 15, 16 years old, so yes, he was in the picture with both of our kids.

Chuck: 7:01

Wow. So being from the farm culture, from that farm culture, it taught you loyalty, I believe, to maintain the marriage, to hold on to your values, correct?

Ms. Loxx: 7:15

That and my mom, my mom taught us a lot. She taught us you're supposed to be by your husband, stick by your husband, no matter what, no matter what. And I listened I think I listened a little too well to that, not saying that my marriage was the worst so far as us being together for 22 years, but it did turn into a port factor and I have taught some classes and working with women in domestic violence situations and I keep saying that I'm going to get back into it.

Chuck: 7:52

Got you.

Ms. Loxx: 7:54

But it did turn into a situation that it did turn into a domestic violence situation. But I got out of it and I'm still here and there's a lot of women out here that don't know how to get out of it or scared to get out of that situation. But it can be done. But you have to literally want it for it to happen.

Chuck: 8:16

Yeah, yeah. You hear about a lot of domestic violence these days that turn into a homicide situation. You know what I'm saying.

Ms. Loxx: 8:24

Like some, it can turn into homicide, it can turn into suicide. It can turn into a lot of different things.

Chuck: 8:31

Wow, because you want to get out and don't know how.

Ms. Loxx: 8:33

Exactly.

Chuck: 8:34

And there's a control factor from the man.

Ms. Loxx: 8:37

It is, and it's actually a control factor from yourself as well. I can honestly say, no matter what your friends tell you or your family tells you, something is going to have to trigger yourself to get out that situation. People outside looking in like, well, I would never be in that situation, I would never stay in that situation, no-transcript. But it's something has to tell you yourself to get out. You can't always listen to your friends and your family. You know, like I was saying, the trigger factor has to make you actually want to get out that situation. Everybody's story is different, right? I think what did it for me is my youngest daughter. I think Maya was maybe six, seven nish somewhere around there, right, and dad used to always do disappearing acts. I would sometimes wouldn't see him for weeks or months at a time.

Chuck: 9:35

Right.

Ms. Loxx: 9:36

And I had just had surgery. It was on a Friday, I remember it like yesterday and from the tube down my throat I had a taste for some mashed potatoes. I just thought that would just feel so good going down my throat.

Chuck: 9:47

Right.

Ms. Loxx: 9:48

I haven't seen the mashed potatoes yet, but hey. But that Monday my neighbor used to help me get my youngest daughter on the bus. I had to be there to work at eight o'clock. Her bus didn't come until nine o'clock. But she called me and she was crying like someone was strangling her, and I said Maya, what is wrong with you? What is going on? And she said mommy, daddy is just a big, fat liar. And I was like what are you talking about? And I was like is he home? You know what happened? And she was like would daddy say that he will always be there for you? And he did not bring you your mashed potatoes? And we have not seen him. And for her to be that age and to really notice what was going on, that did it for me. Just that call from her. And I had been working with a realtor and I had called him and he was like Ursula, every time I find you something, you're never sure, or you always have an excuse. And I told him I said, if I wanted to move today, what would I need to do? So my income tax money had just came in and I told my supervisor I say, look, I got to go do something. I was like I would explain to you when I get back. And I went to him, never saw the apartment, never knew where I was going, but I went to him and I paid him six months in advance. I got off from work, I went home and packed our clothes and I left.

Chuck: 11:13

Wow, what were you feeling at the time?

Ms. Loxx: 11:15

Angry, scared, because I'm like how am I going to do this? And, like you said, it's a control factor. I never was allowed to have a bank account, I never was allowed to have a 401k, so I didn't have money saved up, I didn't have this cushion, I didn't have furniture in a storage, I didn't have anything but me and my girls in our clothes. It was either I was going to be able to see my kids every other weekend or they were going to be visiting me at the cemetery. So you, just like I said, you have to make a decision in what you want for yourself, and it's easier for other people to say whatever with it, but it's harder for other people. It just depends on that individual person. But I never looked back. So it's just something has to trigger that individual person. So it just depends, but I did it. I was able to do it Right. It was hard but I did it, and I've just never looked back, wow.

Chuck: 12:21

I hear the same familiar thread. It's like financial abuse. It's like I got you because you have nothing to live off.

Ms. Loxx: 12:29

You know you can't do it without me, so I hate that, and people always think of abuse as a physical, and it's not. It's not always a physical abuse. You can be abused in numerous ways. You can be verbally abused, you can be financially abused. Everybody always think of abusive as someone putting their hands on you, and that's not always the factor. You can have a wonderful man, but he could. You know you're fat, you're ugly, you can just be abused in so many ways. So I don't want women or men, because men can be abused the same way as women can. You know. So it's not always a physical thing, it's not always in. People always say, well, I'm not abused, but you are, it's just in a different way. So abuse is so many ways to be abused, you know, and people don't see it that way because someone is not putting their hands on you. Wow Right. No matter which way it is, it's not right for any man or woman to go through it. So if you're able to, or if you need help to, there's plenty of resources out here that can help you get away protectively from your situation.

Chuck: 13:44

And you about to start a nonprofit soon to help these women.

Ms. Loxx: 13:47

That is my goal. Wow, that is my goal. There are places out here, but it's not always about getting away. It's getting away and being able to build yourself back up. You know some women in me. You know they need ways of helping. You know finding a job or simple having to write a resume or going back to school, and that's what I want to do. It's not just about putting a roof over someone's head. It's to be able to get them back to where they need to be.

Chuck: 14:17

Giving them the tools to do what they have to do to get on their feet.

Ms. Loxx: 14:20

Exactly. You know you can have a roof over your head anywhere, but you don't want to be in that situation for the rest of your life.

Chuck: 14:28

Right, right right.

Ms. Loxx: 14:29

So it's a lot of men and women, single moms and dads that need how to find daycare, different resources to help with kids, you know. So it's a lot more than just putting your stomach up and putting a roof over your head.

Chuck: 14:43

Got you, got you. You never know who's going to hear this conversation. And I'm loving this conversation and I always say, ms Locke, you never know who's listening. And they are, like you say, a lot of men or women that are going through an abusive relationship, whether verbal or financial or whatever it is. So what would you say right now if somebody was to call you and say I'm in an abusive relationship? What do I do?

Ms. Loxx: 15:09

Well, first, like I said, it's too many different ways of abuse, so it just depends on what it is. But you know, even though I don't have a nonprofit organization, but I do have several resources and I could help you get to where you possibly need to get to. There are places out here, a lot of places that people don't even actually know about, that you can go to. That that person would never find you, and that's another thing. People are scared that that person is going to find them again, which is very, very possible, but there are places that they will not find you ever again. So it's not like you can just go and look those places up Got you. So I tell anyone I don't know everything, but I do know a lot of people that could also help get you to that situation. And our conversation is our conversation. I don't talk to people to put their business out, you know, because that's not going to help either, because you you got to put your trust in somebody.

Chuck: 16:10

Yeah, and I think when you go through something like that, traumatic, like that, you have compassion on the next person. So, it's just not about nonprofit, you know creating something, but when you really have a heart, and you've been through that thing, it's like you have a genuine compassion to see somebody come out. So you do have all the resources. You might not have the building or whatever right now, but you got the heart to do it. So, shout out to you, Ms. Loxx, thank you Absolutely, absolutely. When I met you out there in Norfolk, I saw how y'all was moving around and we had that conversation and you said you were legally blind. Talk about that, because for somebody to see you, you're a bike rider. For somebody to see you, they would never think that you know.

Ms. Loxx: 16:57

Yes, I am legally blind. I have an eye disease called keridiconis. It's where most people's eyeballs are round. My eyes are shaped like a cone, to the point my eyes hemorrhage, and when they hemorrhage they stretch.

Chuck: 17:16

Wow.

Ms. Loxx: 17:17

This is something that is hereditary. That could be hereditary. I have checked numerous of people and no one in my family has problems, probably even wearing reading glasses, but me Mm-hmm, um. But it also can come from hair trauma as well. So then you know, abusive relationship, it could have came from that as well. Yeah, it should. I have no vision whatsoever In my left eye. I've had nine corneal transplants but my body has rejected all of them, so I refuse to get any more. It's just going to be as what it is. My left eye is the worst. I will eventually if I live long enough to you know, I will eventually lose my sight in my right eye. I'm not going to have surgery in that one, I'm just going to keep the vision that I have in it as long as possible. But even in my right eye, without glasses, my vision is 20 over 200, which, in the state of Virginia, I am legally blind in that eye. With my glasses they can bring it to about 2090, 2080, somewhere in that mix. But yes, I am. So if anyone ever sees me, yes, I have a blue eye and I have a brown eye. People say, oh my gosh, that is so sexy, you have two color eyes. No, it is not sexy, because you don't know how I got this blue eye. I was born with it. But yes, it is an eye disease that I have that's causing me to lose my eyesight.

Chuck: 18:54

So I've just dealt with it. Yeah, what's so amazing about that to me is that you still ride the motorcycle.

Ms. Loxx: 19:03

I still drive, I still ride. I don't do a lot of driving at night if I don't have to, unless I know where I'm going, because I'm not going to put nobody else's life in danger. But I don't let it stop me either, because it used to be a depressing thing. I'm losing my eyesight or I've had another surgery and it's still not working. But it's just what it is. I've just learned to deal with it. If my sight stays, it stays. If it doesn't, it doesn't. There's nothing that I can do about it. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

Chuck: 19:36

But you're going to live for today, today, right now.

Ms. Loxx: 19:39

That's the only thing I can do Got you.

Chuck: 19:40

I love your resilience. I love it because to lose your sight, I believe it can put you in a depressive state where a person will say why me, or it's over for me, I can't do anything, but you turn that thing around.

Ms. Loxx: 19:54

It? Can it really, really can really take you? Yeah, I believe it. It's painful some days. I can go through months with no pain and I could, you know, a pain or hit or whichever, or my doctors that I've had. I mean, I've went to several doctors, I've gotten several second opinions. I went to Duke University. I went to a hospital in Atlanta and thinking, you know, maybe my doctor might be missing something, but everybody is seeing the same thing. So it's just a fluke thing that has happened, got you.

Chuck: 20:28

It just is what it is, but you're not letting it stop you.

Ms. Loxx: 20:32

It's no purpose. Yeah, it hinders me on certain things, like I don't have any peripheral vision. So I had incidents where I have fallen because my eyesight is on a slant, unlike most people are straight. So I'll go to step. And it's not a step right there, or people would feel like that I'm ignoring them, because they said, well, you were looking right at me and I clearly did not see you. So it's just stuff like that. But my club members, you know, they know, especially one of them is a white storm, she, you know, I'll hang on to her coattail or just different things. Or if it's dark, you know, people are like, well, you'll never walk around. So I usually just stay seated or I'll stand up and you know, hi, give hugs, and I'll just stay right there. Wow, but it doesn't bother me anymore. My doctors even say well, we can give you a brown contact, because eventually my eye would be from blue to white as a guys. But I'm fine with it.

Chuck: 21:31

Wow. So I see you move around a person who never know. So I shout you out for real. People think about where their life is. You know, to listen to your journey will make them think well, I'm not going through a whole lot because you're still riding bikes and you're legally blind in Virginia, you know. So, yeah, shout out to you. So, mr Locks, yes, who are three people that have influenced you throughout your life?

Ms. Loxx: 22:01

Wow. My mom and dad are the two main ones. If it was not for them, I would not be here today. They're two amazing people and anyone that has ever met my parents you know I'm not just saying it because it's my parents but if anyone has ever met my parents could say the same thing. I lost my dad. I'm not going to cry. I lost my dad. It'll be six years ago this November 12th. November 12th is like a bitter sweet for me, because November 12th is my oldest daughter's birthday and the day I lost my dad as well. But he was an amazing man and my sisters always say well, you were his favorite and you did this and you always got this, but I was the baby. So maybe they always say I was spoiled, that I'm spoiled all to death. But my parents I can't and I'm trying to think of a third person but my parents?

Chuck: 23:06

support us. It's nobody else that could beat them. Yeah, come match their love for you, yeah.

Ms. Loxx: 23:13

I don't even know if it's more of the love for me. It was the love that they had for each other. They were best friends. Yeah, like I can't even think of a time that I've ever seen my parents argue I mean, everybody has a disagreement because everybody doesn't agree on everything, but like a argument or a fussing or what. I can't say that I've ever seen it.

Chuck: 23:39

So that's where your loyalty came from.

Ms. Loxx: 23:42

It did and I tell my mom. I said, mom, it was your fault, it's your fault, it's your fault that I went through this. And she was like what do you mean? I was like because you didn't teach me to divorce, you didn't teach me to leave. I wasn't taught that. We weren't taught that. You taught us to. You were supposed to stay by your husband. You were always supposed to be by his side, you were supposed to have his back. Because no one knew what was going on in my household Not my parents, nobody until after the fact. So she was like well, I never knew that she was. I was like, well, no, you wouldn't have, because I didn't come around or I would stay bond for whatever, or would come up with an excuse to not to be around family. But they taught me everything that I know Got you, and when my dad got sick and passed away, it's like I lost a piece of you know. But it is what it is. I always say I miss him, but I can't be selfish because he was in so much pain. So I'd rather say I'm not to be in pain, but I miss him like crazy. That was my heart.

Chuck: 24:48

Yes, Mm, I really appreciate your conversation and you being open and transparent about what you went through in your past. If you could go back, MS Loxx, to the age probably 10, 11, what would you go tell that young girl to prepare her for now?

Ms. Loxx: 25:09

Looks as not what it's all cracked up to be.

Chuck: 25:12

Yeah, that's deep Talk about it.

Ms. Loxx: 25:14

It's just not, you know, you just you want that cute guy or that football player, that the one that stands out. Guy that everybody else want, but he chose you. It's not always what it's cracked up to be. Wow, that's deep. It really isn't. That's what I'm talking about and, like I said, not saying that the whole 22 years was bad because it, you know it wasn't. But I try to tell my girls the same thing because it's like, yes, he's cute and yes, he has this and yes, he wants you. But don't rush into things. Sometimes, you know the grass, it just is so green and it's just the sun is shining and everything and you get in there and this tornado comes through and wipes everything out. So you know, just be mindful, you know always tell them. You know just make sure you have what you want. Don't ever have to depend on anybody else, because if that person leaves the day or tomorrow, just make sure you're able to maintain. And I say that to my girls and then I kind of regret it because both of my girls they work their tails off. My youngest daughter is 19 and just the other day she's like mom. I got like 108 hours just in one week. I said, maya, why are you working yourself? You be like this 108. Yes, she's like well, mama, I don't want to live for check these checks. She's like I stuff that I don't want, I stuff that I, you know, want to get. And I'm like you know, sometimes I might regret to tell them, you know, don't. But she has everything she wants. My daughter is 19 years old. She has her own place, she has her own car. She doesn't ask me for absolutely nothing. You know whatsoever. My oldest, they both, they work their cells like crazy, but they don't ask mama for nothing. So do what they have to do.

Chuck: 27:06

So you wish you would have like a balancing out, you know.

Ms. Loxx: 27:09

Yes, yes, but hey, they do what they gotta do to get what they want, and they're not dependent on anybody else but themselves.

Chuck: 27:17

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I kind of like it At 19,. I understand you have to enjoy life, but you know when the future comes, you're already set. You know you don't have to work as hard. So while she has the energy to go, get it, I got you. Yes. Yeah, yes, because mommy is broke down, because I'm old, she could be able to take care of mommy. So, hey, I hope so.

Ms. Loxx: 27:42

Both of them are in the medical field, so I hope y'all put me in their zone.

Chuck: 27:44

They hit it, so they're hitting you now. Wow. So you would go back and tell the young locks looks or not, everything.

Ms. Loxx: 27:56

It's not, it really isn't, especially for young ladies. You know it's hard to. You know you have that guy and he has a little bit of money and whatever and the flashiness and it looks good and you know not saying that all are bad, because it's not. You know there's good and bad and everybody, but sometimes you got to look around material things.

Chuck: 28:19

Got you. You're talking to somebody who's listening, because today we go out to material things. If you have a possession, you must be doing something right, everything must be right, but you never know what's behind that material.

Ms. Loxx: 28:31

Exactly, yeah, it's not always a pretty sight behind those material things. So just be mindful, that's all. But that's for the young and to the old. Absolutely, absolutely so you have a lot of. You know, sometimes age doesn't play a factor in a lot of parts. You have a lot of older people. They don't use their mind.

Chuck: 28:55

Right. Very good Common sense.

Ms. Loxx: 28:58

Yes, yes, and everybody doesn't have it.

Chuck: 29:02

Right, I really enjoyed our conversation today. Ms Loxx's Thank you. Yeah, for real. What do you want people as we sign out? What do you want people to know about you? To know to know about me? Yeah, cause you say people feel like you are aggressive, but People do feel.

Ms. Loxx: 29:22

Or they say I'm mean, or they say I'm really not.

Chuck: 29:26

To know you. Yeah, they ought to get to know you.

Ms. Loxx: 29:29

But my facial expressions really don't always tell a good story, right Cause I guess I'm flying on, but I'm not really flying. I'm actually concentrating. My eyesight is different from everybody else's, so if you walk past me I'm not going to see you, like I have to like focus, so when I'm focusing I guess I have a frown on my face. So I'm, you know, I'm looking like a mean, but I'm really really not. I mean I can be, but I'm really, really, really not a mean person. I'm really not. I mean, if I had it, it's yours, I would give you the shirt off my back, if you. But you know I don't take but so much from people, but you know you could come talk to me, you can, you know, but I'm also I'm not going to tell you something that you want to hear. So you might be mad at me. You know you might get straight shooter. Yeah, I'm not going sugar coated for you, but people tell me all the time that you know they can always come talking in and that to me means a lot. You come talk to me, but I'm really a sweetheart. Now I can go zero to a hundred, but for most part I feel that I'm a sweetheart.

Chuck: 30:43

Do you think that comes from? I guess, traumatization, if I could say it like that from the relationship in the past that you know things trigger you.

Ms. Loxx: 30:53

That might, but my attitude it can. I could be fine one second and you could say something, and it's another whole told person. So, I do.

Chuck: 31:05

I have a churro attitude when it comes to certain stuff Because you come from the farm, you come from chicken, so it had to be something in between.

Ms. Loxx: 31:16

Is that what it is? I'm going to tell my mom that this is why I'm like, but for most part I'm pretty laid back person.

Chuck: 31:28

Got you, got you, wow, amazing. So as we close out, miss Locke again I enjoyed the conversation Do you want to give a shout out to anybody before we close?

Ms. Loxx: 31:39

My mom.

Chuck: 31:39

Shout out to mom.

Ms. Loxx: 31:42

Yes, bessie White, better known as Honey. She is the strongest woman. I don't see how she do it. I don't have that part. Maybe the older I get maybe it'll come to me, but it hasn't got to me yet. But she is. She has been able to hold stuff down, you know, even since you know my dad's been gone, which I know she probably has a day every day or maybe every other day and losing my dad, but she still gets through it. I can call it any point of time One, two, three o'clock in the morning, the moment I'm on my way I got to talk or whatever. It's no ever where I'm going back to sleep or come over tomorrow, or I don't feel like dealing with you right now. It's never that. I know I can always, always talk to her and if it wasn't for her I wouldn't.

Chuck: 32:32

Wow, so shout out to mom AKA Honey.

Ms. Loxx: 32:37

Yes.

Chuck: 32:37

Absolutely Well, I appreciate you, miss Locks, so hopefully we'll get to do this again. Have another conversation about your nonprofit when you started and also when you write that book that's coming soon, yeah.

Ms. Loxx: 32:53

I'm getting there, I'm getting there.

Chuck: 32:55

You're around the corner. So again, thank you so much for being a part of let's Just Talk About it podcast with Chuck. Talk to you soon. Thank you, absolutely. Wow. What an amazing conversation. Shout out to my friend, miss Locks, for having this dialogue with me. You know, after listening to her story, it lets us know that we all go through challenges and that we all feel the pain at times from this reality called life. But it also lets us know that, no matter what kind of hand we've been dealt, it's still possible to make it through to see a brighter day. So hang in there, as always. Thank you so much for tuning in to let's Just Talk About it podcast and please check out my website. Just Google let's Just Talk About it podcastcom and then hit that subscribe button to receive all the new episodes every Friday. You can also find me on Facebook. Just type in Chuck LJTAI, which means let's Just Talk About it. And, as always, until next time, don't hold it in, but let's just talk about it. Talk to you soon, thank you.