(Ep.64) WAKE UP!

Chuck: 0:11

Welcome back to a brand new episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast. I'm your host, chuck, and if you're here for the first time, this platform was created to give genuine people just like you an opportunity to share a portion of your life's journey. So, with that being said, today I'm excited to have Ms Carolyn White on with me today from Suffolk, virginia, where we have a great conversation about the importance of voting and how we as a society need to wake up by electing the right people to be in place to help make our communities better. So you don't want to miss this dialogue. As a matter of fact, do me a favor go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and gather around to listen to my conversation with Ms Carolyn White on let's Just Talk About it podcast. Hey, let's jump right in. Welcome back to another episode of let's Just Talk About it podcast. Today I have Ms Carolyn White on with me. Today, we're going to be talking about the importance of voting, how you doing today.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 1:11

Doing good. Good to be here.

Chuck: 1:13

Yep, good to have you on.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 1:14

Thank you so much, Chuck.

Chuck: 1:16

We're seated in this beautiful house in Suffolk, Virginia. We're going to have a great conversation about this subject on voting. That's coming up in November, correct? So talk about that.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 1:27

Well, we just finished up the primaries in June and I just thought that, since we are a community of majority blacks and now we're growing and we're getting every nationality into the community, I thought it was time for us to talk about the importance of voting. Even in the June primaries, when we had the voting, we had a low turnout. We're in a city, now we're in. I'm in Suffolk, but my community of Puseville comprises Chesapeake and Suffolk. Now you know what? The redistricting way back in the 2010 census there was a problem. There was a problem where they did the redistricting maps and the redistricting maps were incorrect and they have not corrected it yet. So I'm not even a politician, I'm not even into politics, but the importance of voting. I felt that let's get in here and get our people to vote to get the people in to help do some things in our community. So last year we decided my friend and I decided to work on a campaign. We worked on the campaign for the city of Chesapeake when Les Smith was running for city council. And so we learned from that all the scrutiny that was going on even in that little section that we were in. So I know it's all over. It's all over the United States, right, everybody's trying to get their people in and get them in any kind of way. But we saw some things that we saw were unfair. And then when the new redistricting came, we really saw the scrutiny. We were working on the Chesapeake side. Like I said, I live in Suffolk but we were working on the Chesapeake side and our little community, with the redistricting was split again Chesapeake split. This time the Chesapeake residents and Chesapeake are here in Puseville and I said this can't be. So I went online and saw that the registrar Chesapeake had did a 75 page report and she took it to council and we were in council at that time and I said why is she doing all this? I know the Supreme Court does the redistricting, but then she separated the communities. She separated the majority of the black communities, giving them new precincts. So then we got down to where it says Puseville, puseville, chesapeake. It says I have nowhere to place them and that bothered me. Nowhere to place us. We can walk right down the street to the voting precinct. That was at the Y Teller Bend. We can walk almost to the library right down Teller Road. That's the Russell Memorial.

Speaker 3: 4:16

Right and still vote.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 4:18

So why, all of a sudden you're saying you have nowhere to place us? So when we worked out there passing out the little sample ballots, they had and we both worked there. When we had the primaries, we worked at the library on Teller Road, Russell Memorial, and then, when the actual voting time came in November, we worked at the Y where normally the people would come. So we worked from 6 am to 3 pm.

Speaker 3: 4:47

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 4:48

Me and my girlfriend. We had no problem. I mean, the people were coming and we were steady, talking to them and passing out the samples. Then at three o'clock we were going to have a change of people. The people that came out there to take my place and her place were people from Chesapeake that I think Les had asked to help out. These were friends of his and family members. So these people don't live in this surrounding area. So all of a sudden the man that was bringing us the extra ballots sample ballots to pass out handed me we had dark green ones all day long handed me some light green sample ballots and he said give these only to the people in Puseville. And I said huh. I said I'm getting ready to change. We're gonna have a change of a renew. So these people are not going to know Puseville residents. I knew them because I lived here all my life. And he said, well, just give them to them and have them to pass them out. So then, when I went to the end, where my girlfriend was, and I said, did you get some light green ballots? She said yeah. I said these are for Puseville. Only how they're going to know who Puseville? People are we weren't asking people where you from.

Speaker 3: 6:03

Right, we don't ask that.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 6:04

We just say please vote for this person, this, this, this and this, and we hand them the sample ballot. So I thought that was strange. That was in November last year 2022. So then came around this year, we had to go and vote and I asked my girlfriend. I said where are you going to vote at? Because they opened up the new precinct here in our community a new whole Baptist church on Puseville road. So I said we're going to have to vote in Puseville, right here in our own community this year. I said but I'm going to the registrar's office. I said I'm not waiting to vote, so I'll. Even went early like May and so I got down and the lady had three ballots. She said which ballot would you like to have? She said we got three for your precinct. I said you do so. She says are you voting Republican or Democrat? I said I'm voting Democrat from the Northern areas clock.

Speaker 3: 7:01

She said you don't have to tell me all that. I said, but I want you to know.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 7:05

And then I looked she had two different ballots for Republicans because you know they had a lot of people run. And so I said okay. So I took that ballot and I made a copy of it because I told my girlfriend, now we need to start taking pictures of these things because everything is so sneaky and so throw it upon us we're not paying attention. So I took a picture of mine and then I bought it back and I shared it with her. Now she's in Chesapeake, like I said. So she said I don't know what precinct I'm supposed to go. I say ask for your voter registration card. So when she went right to the registrar's office to get her voters registration card, the lady said she had mailed them out to the area. Well, the majority of the people she found. I never received that card. They were supposed to got that last year in. November, before November. So she got her card and it's had two different precincts on it, two different districts, and I said you can vote in both of them? She said I don't think so. I said well, I know you can vote over here if they're telling you to go over here. And so we were both thinking that our balance was going to show our Senate race and our district race. Well, it didn't. If you voted on the right side of Pugelsville and Chesapeake, if you lived there, then you can vote for Senate, but if you lived on the left side of Pugelsville and Chesapeake, then you had to come and vote for your district house person, so she had to come to Suffolk to vote for the Democrat Naderi's clock in the house. Well, the people across the street could go down to the Y again, where they normally vote, and they could vote for the Senate.

Speaker 3: 8:51

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 8:52

And I told her. I said that ain't right and she said no, it's not right. So then she has a person that lives in her home that she hadn't registered her and when she came to Pugelsville new hope, they sent her away. I said, wait a minute, y'all live in the same house and got to go two different places. I said you know that's not right. Then when she got her voter's registration card, she found out it was 321 voters in Chesapeake on her side. Yeah, they had to come to Pugelsville, suffolk side. So after the voting, you know, like you know, they didn't win. Praise God, we had Lucas to win, we had the Darius to win. So far Cause, like I say, november is the time we really got to get out of here. They wrote up in the Suffolk news, harold, that Nandarius won and he'll be going up against Mike Dillinger, and they had a little portion of Chesapeake 321 voters and out of those 321 voters, only 30 voted and they voted for Clark. So I'm sad, where's the rest of those people that don't even know they should have come over to the Pugelsville. So everything is set up so that people, if you don't really pay, attention.

Chuck: 10:07

You wouldn't know what's going on.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 10:10

So we don't get papers around here, right? I got to go to Chesapeake to get a Suffolk paper those free papers they pass out. I got to go to Chesapeake to get one, because they refuse even to give us a newspaper box in this community. They won't give us anything. But hey, I ain't stupid, I still go out to Chesapeake and grab one of those papers. And, matter of fact, I grab a few because I let some of the other neighbors know what's going on. So when I grabbed that paper and I saw that right up I mean they even put the total number of people and everything and I'm saying, oh you idiots. So you all are telling us you're doing the wrong thing.

Chuck: 10:49

In your face.

Speaker 3: 10:50

In our faces.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 10:51

Yes, so I snap shot that and I send it to my girlfriend. I say you see this, this is what they're saying. Ha ha ha. We did it to y'all. I still ain't waking up. So we're going to do it to you again in November. So my thing is people wake up. Wake up, because once they get in their offices, ain't nothing you can do. And I told them, I said and this redistricting that was done last year is wrong and you got 10 years more of wrong If you don't correct it. The Bible say our people are perished for lack of knowledge. Wow, and the people ain't trying to get it Right, I'd be here humdrum. All this stuff break out of November and whoa how did it get up there? You put them up there because you sat in your house and you watched it on TV Instead of carrying your butt to vote for somebody, anybody right. Just get out and say I voted right. But out of 321 voters, only 30 people from that section voted.

Speaker 3: 11:56

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 11:56

Where were the rest of them? It's sad, but that's what I'm saying. Our people are sleeping and they watch this stuff on the news and I know young folks don't watch the news, but they get it on their Facebook and they get it on their Twitter, the importance. Yes, but they need to start paying attention to what's going on.

Chuck: 12:16

When you can't look at the news and say I don't think he's a very good candidate because he's not doing this, or I don't think she's really for me, Do you think we hear so much about Republican and Democrat so I guess people just see that name Democrat and immediately think that's a good candidate or see Republican, without doing the study.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 12:38

Without doing the study Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. We got some good people on either side, we see it now, though, yeah. But because the system has played us, so they don't want you to vote for a Republican If you say you a Democrat. You know. Now we're trying to get this third party in independence. In the middle, yeah, in the middle and there's no middle. You either right or you're wrong yeah. So put in the independence thing and make it no better.

Speaker 3: 13:08

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 13:09

Because we're looking at candidates that's going to work for us. But if we got to choose, because I'm Democrat and I see a good Republican that might work along with me. Look at the president Biden's got to work with both of them, so he wants to get people in there that he's going to work with on both sides of the picture. But when they screwed us like this because even now we used to get have a whole ballot that says this is a Republican, this is a Democrat, this is this and we had a list. And if I wanted to vote for a Republican that I felt was a good Senator, and if I wanted a good house rep, that was a Democrat. Or if I wanted a congressman and I feel he's a Republican, but he's doing some things to help America.

Chuck: 13:56

Got you.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 13:57

Then I should have that right. But the system has split us and it's not right. So now everybody's playing the role that. Okay, I ain't no Democrat, I ain't no Republican, so I'm going to stay home.

Speaker 3: 14:09

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 14:10

So you ain't a nobody. So when things go wrong in your neighborhood, you that nobody don't come here raising saying yeah it's too late yeah. You know, but that's what's happening. Our people fuss and rage over stupid stuff.

Speaker 3: 14:25

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 14:26

Instead of looking at facts, figures, the surroundings. You know they don't look at that anymore.

Speaker 3: 14:33

Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 14:33

It's all about what they saying on paper or what somebody else said on television.

Chuck: 14:37

Yeah, let me ask you something. I had Les Smith. He was running for city council. He explained to the listening audience what city council met. So would you mind explaining what being a senator means, how important it is to get out there and vote.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 14:54

Yes, being a senator, no matter whether you're a senator, congressman, house of rep, rep or whatever. Those people are the people that you're putting in office to help you, to help your community, to be your voice, just like with counsel, unless what's trying to explain to them. I'm your voice, I'm the person that you will pick and I will be the person that go and speak up for you. You know we got a lot of people with great ideas but they're scared to speak in front of the public or they're scared to call them for fear. Because, like in my neighborhood, people here are just trying to hold on, maintain, they're trying to hold on to the land, they're trying to hold on to their homes, they're trying to pay their taxes, they're trying to work and be comfortable. But even that's not happening now because the developers see, whoa, there's some rich land out there. You know, before it was like, oh, we can't do anything. That land's flat, that's what the city goes down. That's old flat land with flooding areas.

Chuck: 15:52

Yeah, flooding there, but now they're building on it.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 15:55

But now they're building on it and my strange thing is how can you build on? a flat land and put a flat house that's on the ground on flat land. So I'm saying, even that doesn't even make sense. So you know, the things Suffolk is doing in Chesapeake out here is not making any sense, but they're getting away with it because we're sleeping. Again, people are paying attention until they're hitting next door. Oh why do you take part of my land and doing this and putting this house here? But did you check and see where your markings were on your land? People don't know that. They don't check it, stuff like that. If somebody put a stick in the ground and said this is your portion land.

Chuck: 16:33

This is mine. You'll believe it.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 16:33

That's right, and you got these right in your house, your parents had them or whatever, and you won't even go get that checked. You won't even call a land surveyor to say city is wrong. Can you fix this for me? Can you check this? You know why? Because we're scared to pay them money. But the developers will come here and they'll pay thousands of dollars just to take your land right from under you and say, oh no, the land was over here and you got paperwork to prove it but you're too lazy to go check it. All people are perishing for lack of knowledge and they ain't trying to get it, though. That's what I'm saying. It's sad and I tried to tell the young people we're gonna be old soon.

Speaker 3: 17:13

I'm gonna be 70 in January. The Lord might call me home. I think about that too.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 17:17

That's what I'm saying the Lord might call me home before January gets here and I'm gonna say okay, Lord. Yes, because I've had enough. I'm coming up there with you, but until he does, I'm trying to wake these young folks up, absolutely. You know, and just like Al Shopton said, we had too many black people. Now that's got the power, that's in power, that's got positions they've never had before, and what are they doing with it? Help your brother man, raise your brother man up. Help you get your community up to par. So when you go out there and say they voted for me and I'm gonna help them get this, this and that, because, I want to see them come up to par as the other communities. I mean it's happening all over the United States infrastructures everywhere, money's giving out, buying and strolling away money. I mean money going over there, ukraine, everywhere and we can't even fix America Absolutely. We know it's America gonna get fixed, you know, but putting out all that money? I rode down South Carolina and the roads they're putting in there are beautiful. What is wrong with Virginia? Why can't they do their roads like that? They got the same money or even more, but they don't take that time and fix a road correctly.

Chuck: 18:28

Ditches.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 18:29

They don't fix nothing, a ditch. They don't even clean a ditch, a covert. They say this is a covert. Going here, right, what's a covert when all I see is woods in the water? You haven't done what you supposed to have done. So, virginia, need to take some lessons from the other states and do it right. Then you won't have to keep repeating yourself doing the same thing, trying to fix the same thing and knowing that they ain't coming to no end.

Chuck: 18:56

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 18:57

It's sad.

Chuck: 18:58

Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 18:58

But that's the way our people are.

Chuck: 19:00

Yeah, what would you say to the young people right now?

Mrs. Carolyn White: 19:03

Wake up, get off that phone and look around you. Look at your neighbors, Look and see what your neighbors need. We grew up in this community where everybody helped everybody.

Speaker 3: 19:15

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 19:16

And I think that's why the city's invading us, because they see even through what they're doing to us. We're still holding on.

Speaker 3: 19:25

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 19:26

God has still got the upper hand. Although they're trying to drown us out and send us out off of this land, God is still keeping us here, holding on.

Chuck: 19:35

Yeah, until he comes.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 19:36

It is scary though because people get upset and wonder who in the world is going to do something yeah. And give up and sell out and go about their way. No, until Jesus comes, we're going to fight and we're going to continue to fight. And if the young people don't wake up and fight with us, we're going to fight alone, because Jesus said we're never alone. He's always with us and he's given us the knowledge and the ability to pass down this from generation to generation so our kids won't be left out in the cold.

Speaker 3: 20:09

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 20:09

Because this is where we're headed, because they're not waking up.

Chuck: 20:13

Yeah, but that's what I be thinking about all the time. When your generation leaves off the scene, what are we going to have?

Speaker 3: 20:20

left.

Chuck: 20:21

You know, because y'all are fighters Right. But this generation gives up quick, real quick For the money. Real quick, yeah, they sell out quick, yes. And the money goes real quick, yeah, and they see the money goes quick.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 20:34

And then they wonder why did I do that? Why did I let that go?

Speaker 3: 20:38

Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 20:38

I had a gold mine right there and I let it go. Oh, you see them walk right here. They'll tell you my mama had so many acres of land, so why didn't you pay the taxes just to keep it? Share it with your sisters and brothers, you know, because sisters and brothers can help each other together. Versus. Try to do it alone, but everybody trying to hold on. I got mine, go get yours. No. Start working together the way your parents and your forefathers taught you In order to have something. Work together to have it and to keep it. Every house on this road is the same houses of people that lived here when I grew up. Here I was born and raised on this very ground.

Chuck: 21:21

On the street and this very ground my old house was right here. Where you grew up.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 21:27

Where I grew up.

Chuck: 21:28

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 21:29

I left out and moved back and built this house Because my father passed the land down to my sisters. My sisters couldn't get it because the city hadn't put in the sewage lines. They hadn't put in the water lines and they made us wait. So in 1992, when they finished putting in the sewer, my husband said let's go build on our own property. And that's what we did.

Speaker 3: 21:57

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 21:57

And we came back to this same area to face the same things. The people are fighting for that my dad, his dad, his granddad fought for. So nothing's changed.

Speaker 3: 22:11

Right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 22:12

And it's because our people are still sleeping. We had one man to walk this community that I say was a pillow or a civic leader without even a civic leg, and that was Mark Hill. He would go door to door. I remember as a little girl I was sitting there and he would come knocking at the door and want to sit down and talk to my dad.

Speaker 3: 22:34

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 22:35

You know what he wanted Street lights. And he went to every house and sit and talk to the people. He said now I'm going downtown Suffolk and that's how we got street lights out here.

Chuck: 22:44

He would go to door to door. Door to door Right yes, so people are not willing to do that footwork, no more.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 22:51

No more, yeah no, but we're still canvassing, that's why I? Told Les Les is a good leader. Absolutely I have learned a lot from him.

Chuck: 22:58

Absolutely Well, yeah, absolutely Shout out to you, les he still does footwork. Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 23:03

He make us do footwork yeah. He make us find out where the communities are that don't have civic leagues. Yeah, we go in there and say do you want us to help you start your civic league? Yeah, because these are the people that's going to speak for you because, you're not speaking up. We're going to speak for you.

Speaker 3: 23:22

Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 23:22

And that's what he's doing now today, absolutely. I applaud him and I applaud all of his efforts. He has a youth group he's working with now, trying to get young men and some ladies I think he got some girls in there too, but he's trying to build them up now and this is the thing I talked to one of the guys that's on planning in the city of Suffolk he's a young man too, like you, and he said, Miss White, when you all was thinking about things in the community, going to council to speak, we were outside playing basketball. He said we get home from school. He said all we wanted to do was play basketball, become superheroes or whatever. He said our parents never pulled us into the political side. And I remember as a young child, like here, my dad would come home and that's when Walter Cronkite was on the news. He said sit down, don't lie, talk, go somewhere, sit down, go somewhere, sit down. We could not talk during that six o'clock hour. Because my daddy wanted to hear what was going on.

Chuck: 24:21

It was important. Yeah, he wanted to hear what was important, and so dad alone taught me pay attention to him Pay attention.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 24:28

You know he didn't talk to me about news. Like I said, he talked to the elderly people. But I saw in him it's something in paying attention to what's going on in your surroundings?

Chuck: 24:36

Absolutely.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 24:37

Yeah, and as a young child I saw that.

Speaker 3: 24:39

Wow.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 24:40

Yeah, but like I said, kids today they don't get involved and we used to have what they call boy scouts, girl scouts. Couldn't all that kind of stuff, absolutely right. They don't have that no you know what they tell the children baby, I'm going to put you in sports. Baby, I'm going to put you in ballet. Baby, I'm going to teach you some music. All these things are fine.

Speaker 3: 24:58

Yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 24:59

But put them in something that's going to structure them, to raise them up to be citizens. Have that mindset, but they got to be citizens first, even to want to do those other things Right, and if they not started in the right direction, they not going there.

Chuck: 25:13

When you say citizen, what do you mean?

Mrs. Carolyn White: 25:15

I mean a person that's going to stand up for your people in your community if you got to stand alone.

Chuck: 25:19

That's a citizen, not just worry about your house.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 25:22

There you go.

Chuck: 25:23

Right, because whatever goes on in your neighborhood Right, it affects you Absolutely. You're right.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 25:30

And this is what people are doing now they close us up. They put you in the gym, stood outside playing. Now Kids want to play on the computers whether they come outside. You be thinking you don't know if they're young.

Chuck: 25:44

What a kid. Yeah, what a kid. You don't know if they're young or bad yeah.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 25:48

I have my grandson out there raking grass, the other day Right. My husband raking grass and then grandma, it's hot out there. I said, yes, it is hot out there, but you better learn how to get a baby and do the work yeah. It's sad. Our kids are becoming wimps, and it's so sad.

Chuck: 26:04

That's why I say y'all are fighters. Yes, y'all hold on to see it through.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 26:08

But now, Wimp, whippin' land. We live in Whippin' land, that's what I call it. You call it Whippin' land. Yes, yes, yeah, it's sad.

Chuck: 26:16

Yeah, yeah, our youth need to be educated. You're absolutely right. You talked about the importance of voting.

Speaker 3: 26:22

Right.

Chuck: 26:23

What would you say to encourage us? We need to do this.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 26:27

Well see, this is the thing, Now that we know we got Senator Lucas is coming in the race. Ok, all right, and she's got to go up against a Republican. Like I said, everybody knows Senator Lucas. They know the things she did. We got the Christians that's upset with her because she bought in a casino. We got some of the other people upset with her. Well, I don't know, because she's OK for when it comes to weed. But I look at it like this you people who are screaming the religious quote, I don't want her because she do this and she do that. But what are you doing to help those people that's running into that casino?

Speaker 3: 27:08

spending their money OK.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 27:10

Louise Lucas don't have to go there no more If she don't want to. She got her money Right, but you're spending every nickel, every dime. Even the welfare people will take every nickel, every dime to try to win more, you know. So the Christians aren't being the Christians that they need to be. You say, OK, Lord, this has been bought on us. How do we fix this? Or how do we help this so these people can survive, Even through that? Remember Masatom and Gamor.

Chuck: 27:38

OK.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 27:38

You had some people God's people that weren't going out there in the streets. They were hiding in their houses or locking their doors to keep these people out. Right, because when the angels came to town, what happened? Those people out there not going to do it. Bring these men out. They even wanted the angels and the man said no, I'm not letting them out here. So we, as Christians, need to tell our brothers and sisters how much money do you have in the bank? Did you pay your rent today before you go to that casino? Are you setting aside a little money to go to the casino, if you really got the play, and are you paying your bills first? Right, you know, I worked at WFF for 32 years. I saw where the money went, I saw where the food stamps went. So you can't blame the government, you can't blame the white man, because you're doing it to yourself. Wow, you know, I told my niece she was a young girl just getting ready to start out working. I said Save some of your check For a heart-rainy day talk about it. She said huh, okay, I don't make nothing. I say, if you making a hundred dollars, put 10 in the bank.

Speaker 3: 28:47

Okay.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 28:48

I said and as you get a raise, put that new 10 in the bank. And I said and you always have some backup money. So these people that are gambling, like I'm saying if the Christians really, really cared you would say, educate them, pull him to the side and educate. Educate them, mentor them. That's what the Bible men did. They mentored them. You got to show them because a lot of people reading you they ain't reading no books. Just like the Bible said, we are the epistles. Today, people are reading us. If you say you're a Christian and Next thing I know, oh, they ain't no Christian. Look at them. They see me struggling. Why are you struggling, baby? Because you went to the casino and spent all your money. Now you want the church to help you. No, no, no, no, no. You did that to yourself. It's time for you to sit down and say Right, how can you help me fix this so I won't have to continue to blow my money at the casino? Wow, in other words, teach them how to fish teach them how to fish, yes, yeah, but I'm saying and these are the Christian, that's why I blame the Christians too, because if you're the Christian, then don't keep pacifying me by telling me it's gonna be all right. Baby, you pray. No, baby, come here and sit down, baby, and let me teach you a little something, something you know our Christians aren't doing that. They've closed the door. I don't want me bother with new people because they they hanging the street on. Why they hanging in the street all night? find out why, you know hmm, I want to know if I see some children walking down to my neighborhood. I'm so we're going this time of the night.

Chuck: 30:23

You're gonna pull them to the side. I'm gonna pull them to the side. Wow, you don't hear that no more.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 30:26

And tell me look, don't. I'm saying everybody scared and gonna get shot. Well, if you die, you know a Christian where you're going heaven. Ain't that a better place? So now I don't Stop being afraid. Hmm, I like that and Christians shouldn't be afraid. God hadn't given us that spirit of fear. But people still scan and I'm so glad he gave me the honesty to stand up and to speak, no matter where I go. I was in a football game. The kids were standing up. I can so much rock. I said sit down. And my sister looked to me. She was yelling me. She said I believe. I said they somebody's mama somebody's child Right on down. Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3: 31:11

Mm-hmm.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 31:11

You see, my sister them say, they say they young, they don't want people call them ma'am and thank you so much, ma'am, they don't want to be old. I get that respect. I love it. Yeah because it's showing that you're respecting someone above you. But they say you know that's it. You know I was hiding my what you call old.

Chuck: 31:30

So the best thing now is to give children a platform to hear them too. Yes, yeah, but you're gonna mention them as they go on yeah my grandson is 13 years old.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 31:42

When we were talking about the ditches and how the school buses was about ready to roll over in the ditch, Cuz they couldn't get by right. My grandson wanted to write a letter to the center. I said go ahead, baby. He had a lot of misspell words but I let him type it.

Chuck: 31:55

He wanted to write where. Tell him yes.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 32:00

I think I still on my computer I say we get that from you, though? Yes, because he see what's going on. Yeah, I mean, I went to a VDOT meeting and I was babysitting that summer so I had to take the two of them to my grandson's. They sat right in the meeting and that's when he came out he said, grandma, they're not gonna do our ditches on it. I say we gonna keep fighting till they do. No, I certainly will. But when we get them involved and they can see things, when it takes yeah, when it takes to get it done right, and then they're bold enough to speak up to. You know, it's still a bit, I ain't gonna say nothing to them, they, they might do something. No we got to stop dancing open your mouth and teach our children Not to be afraid to say what they had to say and be respectful.

Chuck: 32:42

Yeah, do it the right way.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 32:44

Yeah, and they see us get up there fussing and cussing at the man, and then they get out there they think they supposed to do and they get locked up.

Speaker 3: 32:52

Hmm.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 32:53

You know. So I'm saying it's a nice way to buy, but say yeah a soft words, a turn away wrap.

Chuck: 32:58

Shout out to you, miss Carolyn white.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 33:02

I love this conversation Because because, all these things that the word tell us. If we just go back what the word say, we were no problem, I go. I go to council now and my girlfriend said, carol, when you speak you be smiling at him. I said, oh, they got ugly. God got my back. You know he's giving me the words to say they know I'm speaking truths. So whether they're listening or not is been recorded.

Chuck: 33:28

I Appreciate you being on the day and having this conversation. Is there anything you want to say before we?

Mrs. Carolyn White: 33:37

vote November, november, it's coming vote and it's what's the date? Is close. I think it's November the seventh. Okay and I think the people need to realize is closer Than before yeah and those of you that slept, the primary, the primaries, and one that you pick to be the one that's gonna carry you through in. November. But when we say I ain't gonna vote in the June primary, I ain't got a vote till November. But when you vote in November, you got the pickings. You got the pickings of what we didn't already Selected. You may have wanted somebody greater or better, or seen something in them that you could use, but because you said home you, let us do your picky. So then when things go down in November and I in January, when they get elected and get in office, don't say, sure, wish they hadn't got an office. Well, they wouldn't have if you had been up there and placed your vote. But we won't do that. Right and we set back and complain. Activists. Wow it's not to think complain about, because we do it to ourselves.

Chuck: 34:42

So somebody want to get in contact with you. Is there a way?

Mrs. Carolyn White: 34:45

Yes, there's a way. I'm carol and white and everybody in Puseville.

Chuck: 34:49

No, please use your stuff.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 34:52

And they call my husband the Sheriff of the town. Okay, wayne white. So a lot of people know Wayne white, but we both have email addresses. Minds, it's my name, carolin oh white at charternet.

Speaker 3: 35:05

Mm-hmm.

Mrs. Carolyn White: 35:06

They can write to me. Or, like I said, if you coming to the neighborhood ask anybody, they know me. The developers that came out here started building homes. You know what he said? Uh, the city told me I better talk to a miss white. And he got my number and he called and he said the city said it the city. You better talk to miss white miss white. So when I talk to him and I said, oh, what's wrong? He said nothing wrong, but they say that I'm gonna check with you and talk with you what you do anything. And you know what? Yeah he was glad he did. They screwed up the deeds, the lights that he was to build on and all that. He said, miss white, well, you get all this information from. I said I've lived here all my life, the grounds you're building on, I know the people. I knew the people that were there before you. So it's good to pay attention and listen. And he was obedient to come and talk with me to find out some things he didn't know and now he loves peels me. Only think he wanted going, still building. I think he built about 10 or 12 houses on one street and he don't want to go. But, like I say, we got to help each other right and we can help each other grow when we work together.

Chuck: 36:14

I love it working together. Yeah, shout out to you again. Appreciate you being on. Thank you for your time, thank you and being on my podcast, let's just talk about it podcast with Mrs Carolyn white. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Wow, what an amazing conversation. Shout out to my friend, miss Carolyn white, for having this dialogue with me. You know, after listening to her share her heart about how important voting is and the necessity of pulling together To make a change in our community, that it should create an urgency to educate ourselves and our families about these elections, because who's ever put in place that? Not only does it affect our now, but it also affects our future. So let's get out there, vote and shout out to you, miss Carolyn, and less Smith and many others who are doing the work as always. Thank you so much for tuning in to let's just talk about it podcast and please check out my website. Just Google let's just talk about it podcast Com and then hit that subscribe button to receive all the new episodes every Friday. You can also find me on Facebook. Just type in Chuck L J, t a I, which means let's just talk about it. So, as always, until next time, don't hold it in, but let's just talk about it. Talk to you soon, oh.